Acura Integra Type-R All Integra Type R Discussions

Throw-Out Bearing - What causes them to go bad?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 03:51 AM
  #1  
jond's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,406
Likes: 0
From: Brooklyn, NY
Default Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad?

I had one go bad at 50,000. Another around 95,000.
Now I just got a new clutch, and less than 5 hours later its making a F%$# noise..


What cause the throw-out bearing to go bad, or make a noise?

Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:02 AM
  #2  
Bbasso's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 18,261
Likes: 0
From: USA
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (jond)

good question, I have had my share of them go bad too.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:07 AM
  #3  
typer_696's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
From: miami, fl, 33161
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (Bbasso)

nothing really causes it to go bad. It just does or it dont. Hopefully your are lucky and it will last you a long time. We are you at cause I have an extra. I have about 3 laying around and a brand new one still in the box i dont need. I will give it to you
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:08 AM
  #4  
typer_696's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
From: miami, fl, 33161
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (typer_696)

are you sure it is the throw out bearing or is it the pilot bearing cause i dont think you ever change that.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:09 AM
  #5  
Bbasso's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 18,261
Likes: 0
From: USA
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (Bbasso)

I found this... wonder if it sheds any light

http://science.howstuffworks.com/bearing1.htm

Nope not much.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:24 AM
  #6  
Willard's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,967
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (jond)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What cause the throw-out bearing to go bad, or make a noise?</TD></TR></TABLE>
-keeping your foot on the clutch at stop lights or other times when it is not needed.

-the excessive heat from track use (I am on my 4th unit at 86,000 miles).
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:30 AM
  #7  
MugenHonda's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,672
Likes: 0
From: With my POS D15B2, Whereever whenever, United States
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (Willard)

if you grease it well that should alleviate some of the problems.
And like the above said, i don't get a point as to why people like keeping there car in gear at a red light.
It's not like a car is a motorcycle.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:34 AM
  #8  
George Knighton's Avatar
H-T Order of Merit
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 96,456
Likes: 38
From: Siege Perilous
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (Willard)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
-the excessive heat from track use (I am on my 4th unit at 86,000 miles).</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm on my third with 93,000 miles. But I have to admit that #2 really didn't need to be replaced.

I've also heard any number of people say that they would prefer to use the OEM Acura bearing even with their high performance clutches and pressure plates.

I have a complete ACT kit now. First non-Acura kit. We'll see.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:54 AM
  #9  
ninor's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 424
Likes: 0
Default

ALWAYS use Honda one, I usually buy ACT kit and then extra OEM bearing. ACT clutch kit for our car is very solid, and even though ACT pre-packaged bearing is manufactured by the same company as Honda OEM (it is even hard to tell them apart) for some reason whenever I used it it started making noise sooner than OEM...

Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:09 AM
  #10  
b19coupe's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,854
Likes: 4
From: Southern California, U.S.A.
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (Willard)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-keeping your foot on the clutch at stop lights or other times when it is not needed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good way to kill a throw out bearing twice as fast.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:17 AM
  #11  
Tweakmeister's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 7,536
Likes: 1
From: Edgewater, MD / La Jolla, CA
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (jond)

I think it's the shifting at high speeds as well - you're taking an object and spinning it up to 8000rpm in a fraction of a second.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:31 AM
  #12  
KOALA YUMMIES's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,173
Likes: 0
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (Tweakmeister)

Can someone accurately describe the sound? Or possibly upload a sound clip? I just replaced mine along with the clutch but I'd like to know what to listen for in the future.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:58 AM
  #13  
jond's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,406
Likes: 0
From: Brooklyn, NY
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (KOALA YUMMIES)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KOALA YUMMIES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can someone accurately describe the sound? Or possibly upload a sound clip? I just replaced mine along with the clutch but I'd like to know what to listen for in the future. </TD></TR></TABLE>

My last one sounded kinda like you've spun a bearing. This past time it sounded more like a loose belt.

Either way, you can tell if its the throw-out bearing if the noise goes away when you push the clutch in.


Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:01 AM
  #14  
jond's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,406
Likes: 0
From: Brooklyn, NY
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (George Knighton)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(I am on my 4th unit at 86,000 miles).</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm on my third with 93,000 miles. But I have to admit that #2 really didn't need to be replaced.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Okay, we'll its good to atleast know I'm not alone. I was worried maybe something related to the bearing was warped or bent causing them to get eaten up.

It looks like 1 every 50,000 or so seems normal?


Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:12 AM
  #15  
Bbasso's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 18,261
Likes: 0
From: USA
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (jond)

I have had them fail at 9,000 miles and some have lasted 20,000 go figure.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:13 AM
  #16  
Willard's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,967
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (jond)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It looks like 1 every 50,000 or so seems normal?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Or sooner than that if you clutch pedal is harder to push (ie. the lube has been burnt off of the shaft).
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 03:39 PM
  #17  
Kicker773's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,470
Likes: 0
From: shibby, IL, U.S.A.
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (Willard)

sound, well it sounds nasty and not normal, but then again it could also be the input shaft
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 03:57 PM
  #18  
dsisive407's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 900
Likes: 0
From: around the corner to the left ... no, your other left
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (Kicker773)

mine needs replacing right now. im at 94,xxx miles. i was wondering if i should buy the stock clutch kit from acura or go ahead and purchase the oem replacement kit that the nopi website has for sale. the clutch is made by daikin clutch, never heard of them and i'm kinda skeptical. dont want to buy the clutch kit if its garbage. need some advice/suggestions. thanks
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:27 PM
  #19  
Crx Jimmy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,915
Likes: 1
From: jimmysville VT,, NY, USA
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (ricancivicsi8)

that is exedy its oem
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:56 PM
  #20  
KOALA YUMMIES's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,173
Likes: 0
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (Crx Jimmy)

Do some searches for people's opinions on the Exedy OE replacement clutches, I'd go (and did) with Honda OEM if you're considering that...
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 04:14 PM
  #21  
GS-Rcivic's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,018
Likes: 0
From: Rochester, NY
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (KOALA YUMMIES)

Mine went bad after a week of driving. Came with my Clucthmaster kit. Im wondering if a 2700lbs pressure plate will cause it to go bad faster, any ideas?
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 07:48 PM
  #22  
FlsFinest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

well i use nachi bearing all metal no plastic and that works fine with me no problems
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 09:51 PM
  #23  
fullraceacura's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,191
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver WA
Default Re: (FlsFinest)

hey i have a question for you, when the through out bearing goes bad can you get the tranny out of gear or no? i couldnt get my tranny out of gear after i replaced the clutch using an old through out bearing so i sold the longblock but not sure if the tranny is bad or if its the through out bearing??
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 10:27 PM
  #24  
R you serious's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,780
Likes: 0
From: japizona
Default Re: Throw-Out Bearing -- What causes them to go bad? (typer_696)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by typer_696 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nothing really causes it to go bad. It just does or it dont. Hopefully your are lucky and it will last you a long time. </TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by typer_696 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
are you sure it is the throw out bearing or is it the pilot bearing cause i dont think you ever change that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

they go bad with usage obviously.. depending on driver and style.
heat is usualy the most likely suspect. On a side note, ive had luck with silocon sprays shot throught the clutch fork boot aimed at the bearing to clear up some noises coming from that area...
luck has nothign to do with it. They should be replaced every time you replace your clutch.
And dont forget to lube the bearing accordingly. My car sees track weekends TWICE a month and ive yet to have a bearing fail on me in the past 3 years..

pilot bearings go bad as well. onces the grease is outa the bearing and the race isnt smooth, the bearing needs replacing. cheep enough to just get it outa the way when you resurface the flywheel and do a clutch job.
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:30 PM
  #25  
jond's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,406
Likes: 0
From: Brooklyn, NY
Default Re: (itr#xxxxlives)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr#xxxxlives &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey i have a question for you, when the through out bearing goes bad can you get the tranny out of gear or no? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess it depends, but all three times I drove on them for quite a while. The second one that went bad on me I put probably 20-30,000 miles on it while it was making a noise.


Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:50 AM.