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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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hey i'm pretty much done swappnig the motor in, it starts anda ll but i put the clutch cable in that little bracket, it pulls the thats arm thing up so far that when i go inside and use the clutch is like theres NO PLAY!, and i pushed that plastic screw kinda thing the clutch adjustment on that little bracket where the clutch cable goes through.....but i hope i dont need a different clutch cable, i dont see why i should...but i can take pics if needed...thanks, you all have been here for all this and have been the biggest help..
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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bottom bushing should be ont top off where u have next to the acordian rubber sleeve ur not moving the clutch
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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i just removed the rubber underneath the adjusting nut and it gave me enough to adjust it properly
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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ok...awesome i'm gonna try this rite now..thanks
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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i ended up using a teg cable
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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i did the b18 swap and had to use the integra cable the civic cable is too small
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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***...how come this was never covered in any those b-series swap tutorials thing's...? i'm so god damn close to this thing running....cant believe the clutch cable needs to be replace too..o well ill hit the junk yards tomm. then
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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i don't think that's right because when i did my b18 swap i still used my stock crx cable and I didn't have any problems with it. but go ahead and try the teg cable and let us know if that works.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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ok i'll keep updating here, but god damn this is all thats left, a whole overhaul on this car and 1 inch short is whats preventing me to drive this...
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Dude cut out the rubber bushing thats what I had to do on both my cars and thats how I see it on pretty much every swapped ef around here
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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All 3 of the b into ef swaps i have done ive used the civic cable. I just cut the rubber sheath back on the cable itself. You can get it to fit without cutting but it allows for little to no adjustment. like the first response said you have it on wrong, so thats part of the prob.

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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well, i did that first, put that over that little piece, and i cut a small chunk of the cable and now it fits fine...but when i press the clutch in it just drops the floor and doesnt come back and i've tightened that screw and its fine..just theres not enough tension to bring it back up now.......any clues to what else needs to be done?

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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Just save yourself the trouble and get a 90-93 integra cable it will run you about $65.00 and only take about ten minutes to install.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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when i did my swap i put a new clutch and throwout bearing in and what..... but when i went to step on the clutch it felt like it was dead it wouldnt engage into any gears, but it strated..... then i thought to myself holy poop on a stick i forgot to put the bolt that screws the throwout bearing fork onto the tranny.... so i had to retake the tranny out and put that single bolt on and problem was fixed... clutched ingaged and everything.... maybe that might be your problem
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damn i hope i dont have to pull this thing out again, but its not like you can buy the clutch cable from your local parts store, i mean i've got everything done with this car except that, theres a honda dealership close to me, do you the del sol vtec clutch cable might work too?

nm just realized they had a hydro tranny...*** looks like this thing wont move today..


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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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dont give up, you should be able to get it to work now. You need to pull the clutch arm thing up as high as you can, before it even starts to engage. Once you have it pulled up all the way put the cable in and tighten it down about 3 full turns. I know how it is with my first swap it was the clutch cable keeping me from driving.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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integra cable... i think the dx cables were smaller..
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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My knowledgable friend says to verify that you're using the correct B16A clutch cable bracket for the transmission.

Also, use a 90-91 Integra clutch cable.

I'm using both and they work perfectly. I did have to unbolt my bracket to install the cable though.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pr3d &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, i did that first, put that over that little piece, and i cut a small chunk of the cable and now it fits fine...but when i press the clutch in it just drops the floor and doesnt come back and i've tightened that screw and its fine..just theres not enough tension to bring it back up now.......any clues to what else needs to be done?
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Sounds like what was said before you either left out the bolt for the release bearing or your return spring broke. Both require removal of the tranny.

I tried both cable on my B18 swap and I ended up using the 90-93 cable. Much easier to work with. Don't give up. Start that bitch up!!
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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arite the 90-93 cable will come in tomm. so i gotta wait around for that, but i mean thats it....i'm kinda just frustrated i guess, the car starts...idles fine...rev's fine...everything is fine.....just that i cant get it to move...thanks for the help....are all 90-93 teg cables the same?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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You are making this way too hard on yourself. Take tke the cluth cable in your hand, Pull the adjustment piece off the sheath, down towards the end of the cable. Cut some of the plastid covers tuff back. You will see that the sheath is a metal coil. cut 4-5 coils out (1/2inch or so)(hack saw works best.. just be careful not to cut the cable) Put the adjustment thing back. Hook the cable up the right way with the rubber bushing under the lever. Adjust clutch to be lower on the pedal. Adjust return screw in car to take slack out of pedal.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by g-ride-si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All 3 of the b into ef swaps i have done ive used the civic cable. I just cut the rubber sheath back on the cable itself. You can get it to fit without cutting but it allows for little to no adjustment. like the first response said you have it on wrong, so thats part of the prob.

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were is that peice supposed to go/do???

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bob06 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Adjust return screw in car to take slack out of pedal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
were is this??
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bob06 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are making this way too hard on yourself. Take tke the cluth cable in your hand, Pull the adjustment piece off the sheath, down towards the end of the cable. Cut some of the plastid covers tuff back. You will see that the sheath is a metal coil. cut 4-5 coils out (1/2inch or so)(hack saw works best.. just be careful not to cut the cable) Put the adjustment thing back. Hook the cable up the right way with the rubber bushing under the lever. Adjust clutch to be lower on the pedal. Adjust return screw in car to take slack out of pedal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok, i did that, refer to my earlier pic

...i did pull that adjustment screw back as far as possible, and pulled it down and then used a dremmel to hack off some of that coil protective layering....now it seats/sits fine, but when i i go to use the clutch, the clutch pedal just drops to the floor, i dont hink it even engages at this time, i'm pretty sure i had that spring screw thing screwed in when the tranny was apart, but lets see if the teg cable works...so we'll see tomom. wish me luck..
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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okay since the clutch cable is out of the arm thingy..... try moving the arm thing up and down with your hand, and if it moves around like nothing then its an issue inside of your tranny housing.... but thats just if it moves around like nothing though.....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R_type &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay since the clutch cable is out of the arm thingy..... try moving the arm thing up and down with your hand, and if it moves around like nothing then its an issue inside of your tranny housing.... but thats just if it moves around like nothing though.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea that was the first thing i tried just to play with that arm, and it seems to go up and down kinda fine, i mean its got some sort of tension on it, and it seems to drop back down due to tension from the release bearing spring, i really hope i dont have to pull this thing out, but knowing me, there might be a slight chance, technically it is possible to pul the just the tranny out from underneath rite? or is it better to pull the whole motor out?
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