Are there any here in Texas that do their OWN machine work? Every team I've talked to have someone else build their motors? Most of them being very poor(redneck) shops. Are there any here?

 

i think the way to get yourself out there is help someone out and stickers to build a reputation for good work. I don't think anyone just take peoples word with 5 grand worth of engine work. The shop that does mine hooked me up and I ran local events and everyone knew what shop did the builds. I think every shop has a few mistakes though so be ready to eat a little bit to get a good rep going.

 

is that KC Snyder? As in SAM teacher Snyder?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HEAD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that KC Snyder? As in SAM teacher Snyder?</TD></TR></TABLE>sam? as in school of automotive machinist?....

 

Im talking about true engine building. You go look at any pro-stock team and ask them any question about their engine they know everything....cause "they" built it. Not...well we have our block done here....head by Portflow..bla bla bla. Im just so disapointed when I go to these National events and these people have very nice cars that have so much money invested. But when you start asking questions about dynamics of engine building they have no clue.

 

As in School of Automotive Machinists...KC Snyder is a good friend of mine and he teaches the cylinder head class at the school.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HEAD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As in School of Automotive Machinists...KC Snyder is a good friend of mine and he teaches the cylinder head class at the school.</TD></TR></TABLE>interesting....did you attend the school aswell? i might have some Q's for you if you dont mind, im trying to go next year. But back on topic so you want to work for a team that does everything inhouse?

 

 

Remember when you go to a national event you are still looking at sportsmens racing and not a real pro team with multi-million dollar budgets that can afford to own there own CnC machines and buy car dealerships like Force racing and turn them into race shops. Your expectations need to be evaluated not the racers. Alot of the guys and gals you see helping on a team in SportCompact are volunteers not pros that are building motors and porting heads.

 

I did go to the school and was dir. of admissions for some time.

 

It has nothing to do with muliti million dollars Im just saying why dont you see a Reher-Morrison or a John Force Racing or Hendricks in the import scene. I think the sport is starving for teams like this...

 

I did graduate from the school as well.

 

It's very simple, money. The people that don't have it don't have professional race engine builders, most do it themselves. The people that do have it, either have someone that builds their motors or they do it themselves. I don't think the sport is where it needs a full time engine facility per team yet. A professional race team shouldn't go through more than 6-7 motors a year, tops. I don't know about the teams you've talked to, but i can tell you almost every detail about any of the cars that i work with. I think most pro teams are the same way. Now, weather or not they want to tell you is a different story...

 

Tony who builds your motors? I called today to see if you guys were hiring but I thought you might have had a machine shop. Do you guys ever get into custom chamber molded pistons, or trick valve jobs?

 

power is still to be found with off the shelf product, so why spend big $$$ on that kind of stuff.

 

Thank god for the teams not all having a in house head porter, I would be out of business. If you want to work for a race team, you should look into joining one of the teams mentioned. I left the school and went to work for Pat Musi, where he had a race team and a machine shop. Never did I want to be on the team, but I learned a ton about engines, porting and nitrous. I know there is no place like this in sport compact racing, but I am sure Judson tought you that we are talking about an internal combustion engine and it does not know what brand or in what kind of car it is in. good luck in your quest.

 

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I work with quite a few race teams and they all use someone different. There's alot of people out there that can build a motor. Most of my guys are turbo, so combustion chamber molded pistons would make my job as a tuner very hard! lol Every good head porter has his "special" valve job, you'll have to talk to the head guys to get details, and i'm sure most are not willing to share that information.

 

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Actually, it has everything to do with the "lack" of multi million dollars. Until more mainstream team and series sponsors get involved it will still be grass-roots. That will come but not overnight. The teams you mentioned evolved to what they are today. Sport Compact drag racing is in it's infancy. And to be honest, R-M is among those feeling the pinch of what it takes to be competitve in ProStock. The cost of being/staying competitive is enormous and never ending.

A shop w/ machines is meaningless without knowledgable people. Payroll is the real cost, the machines are relatively cheap. As they say, knowledge is power (and sometimes more $ ).

And, having chewed up and spit out four employees the past 3 years (the last a January grad from SAM who lasted 3.5 weeks!). Each looking for a REAL race shop to work in. Here is the first sentence from my mouth during a job interview - "The glamor will wear off in a week or two and then the reality that it's really just hard work will set in." You better really love racing to be happy and hopefully successful.

 

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And, having chewed up and spit out four employees the past 3 years (the last a January grad from SAM who lasted 3.5 weeks!). Each looking for a REAL race shop to work in. Here is the first sentence from my mouth during a job interview - "The glamor will wear off in a week or two and then the reality that it's really just hard work will set in." You better really love racing to be happy and hopefully successful.

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Very true some people at the school have no idea. I personally have no need to be on the road with a race team. I just want to be in a shop building motors for a team.

 

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Actually, it has everything to do with the "lack" of multi million dollars. Until more mainstream team and series sponsors get involved it will still be grass-roots. That will come but not overnight. The teams you mentioned evolved to what they are today. Sport Compact drag racing is in it's infancy. And to be honest, R-M is among those feeling the pinch of what it takes to be competitve in ProStock. The cost of being/staying competitive is enormous and never ending.

A shop w/ machines is meaningless without knowledgable people. Payroll is the real cost, the machines are relatively cheap. As they say, knowledge is power (and sometimes more $ ).

And, having chewed up and spit out four employees the past 3 years (the last a January grad from SAM who lasted 3.5 weeks!). Each looking for a REAL race shop to work in. Here is the first sentence from my mouth during a job interview - "The glamor will wear off in a week or two and then the reality that it's really just hard work will set in." You better really love racing to be happy and hopefully successful.

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