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ls vtec question. 2001 integra
I have the head.
now I need.
converson kit
new head gasket
going to do new head studs arp
timing belt.
and water pump too.
do I just need a new stock ls waterpump?
and is there anything else you would recommend changing while its all apart?
I have the head.
now I need.
converson kit
new head gasket
going to do new head studs arp
timing belt.
and water pump too.
do I just need a new stock ls waterpump?
and is there anything else you would recommend changing while its all apart?
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From: SoCal
you need the GSR timing belt and waterpump. It depends on how serious of a build you wanna do to determine goals. How high do you wanna rev? How long do you want the engine to live? Also research and you will find billions of articles on the frankenstein motor before you ask.
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Re: (DA8JDMstreetsleeper)
I did the problem is there are a billion and its easier to ask than to read every single ls vtec post when most of the replies are just like yours. "search first" that doesn't help but thank you for the info that did help.
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Re: (DA8JDMstreetsleeper)
yeah, I know I guess I do have a lot of time but I am lazy. i have a b16 head that I'm going to use, and use the golden eagle conversion kit. gsr ecu and water pump and timing belt. and new head studs and thats all I know for sure now. but its all a matter of money. I need to do it right because i need it to remain a dependable car. 
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Re: (xDantex)
then in my opinion do it all and get it over with. mate the GSR girdle with the LS block. shot peen the crank and rods. Microbalance the rotating assembly. Sleeve the block. High compression pistons and forged rods. ARP as much as can. Mild Angle and Valve job on the head. P30 ECU chipped with a tuning system such as Uberdata or Hondata. Type R oil pump. Larger fuel injectors and throttle body. Ultra thin head gasket to raise compression. B16 tranny. the list can go on and on. But all that should be a good power setup and at the same time a very safe setup.
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Re: (xDantex)
research alot its worth it. Find a good tuner in your area thats got good LS/V experience and talk to him about your plans and what you should do and what he thinks. If you do go through with it I would highly recommend getting it tuned right away to ensure engine safety, reliabity, and so its running optimally. I have some of the components for my LS/V. It's a slow process right now.
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Re: (xDantex)
do the LS/V just do it right and learn how to do it. Just don't be an idiot and once you get it going go around racing everything you see and shifting at 8500 rpm. LS/V's are reliable and can produce mad power and torque. No swaps just gonna be overnight. TJMO.
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Re: (DA8JDMstreetsleeper)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA8JDMstreetsleeper »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anybody correct me if I'm wrong. LS/VTEC is a great set up if done correctly. Can be a disaster if done wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>
tis correct, however with the cost that it costs to do it right the first time, you could have saved the headache and got a GSR motor
tis correct, however with the cost that it costs to do it right the first time, you could have saved the headache and got a GSR motor
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yes you can. Seems like the logical choice to me too. But like I said LS/V's can spank when it comes to HP and torque. So a slightly modded LS/V will spank GSR's. But may not last as long as a GSR. Thats a factor you have to deal with
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Re: (DA8JDMstreetsleeper)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA8JDMstreetsleeper »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes you can. Seems like the logical choice to me too. But like I said LS/V's can spank when it comes to HP and torque. So a slightly modded LS/V will spank GSR's. But may not last as long as a GSR. Thats a factor you have to deal with</TD></TR></TABLE>
the funny thing is 37cc does not make that much difference, the only reason they "spank" GSR's is because the people do a full rebuild and typically run them with higher compression, i bet you $1000 that if you just slapped a VTEC head on a LS block without changing the pistons the GSR would walk all over it
the funny thing is 37cc does not make that much difference, the only reason they "spank" GSR's is because the people do a full rebuild and typically run them with higher compression, i bet you $1000 that if you just slapped a VTEC head on a LS block without changing the pistons the GSR would walk all over it
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Re: (temp)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by temp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the funny thing is 37cc does not make that much difference, the only reason they "spank" GSR's is because the people do a full rebuild and typically run them with higher compression, i bet you $1000 that if you just slapped a VTEC head on a LS block without changing the pistons the GSR would walk all over it</TD></TR></TABLE>
You missed the fact that the LS crank is 89mm. I will take the $1000 bet if the two cars had the same transmission/chassis and the VTEC head was milled just a tad with a thinner head gasket. Probably down to the same compression as a GSR motor. 
the funny thing is 37cc does not make that much difference, the only reason they "spank" GSR's is because the people do a full rebuild and typically run them with higher compression, i bet you $1000 that if you just slapped a VTEC head on a LS block without changing the pistons the GSR would walk all over it</TD></TR></TABLE>
You missed the fact that the LS crank is 89mm. I will take the $1000 bet if the two cars had the same transmission/chassis and the VTEC head was milled just a tad with a thinner head gasket. Probably down to the same compression as a GSR motor.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Toadfart »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You missed the fact that the LS crank is 89mm. I will take the $1000 bet if the two cars had the same transmission/chassis and the VTEC head was milled just a tad with a thinner head gasket. Probably down to the same compression as a GSR motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>
no no no, see you are changing the rules of the game.....keep the head stock, keep the pistons stock, stock everything other then adding the head, GSR wins
You missed the fact that the LS crank is 89mm. I will take the $1000 bet if the two cars had the same transmission/chassis and the VTEC head was milled just a tad with a thinner head gasket. Probably down to the same compression as a GSR motor.
</TD></TR></TABLE>no no no, see you are changing the rules of the game.....keep the head stock, keep the pistons stock, stock everything other then adding the head, GSR wins
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Re: (temp)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by temp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
no no no, see you are changing the rules of the game.....keep the head stock, keep the pistons stock, stock everything other then adding the head, GSR wins</TD></TR></TABLE>
This guy is right dudes. Hate it or love it GSR's are the better choice overall in my opinion only. Why dont you just build your LS up and do some proper tuning ...........then boost!!!! Now that will not dissappoint you!
no no no, see you are changing the rules of the game.....keep the head stock, keep the pistons stock, stock everything other then adding the head, GSR wins</TD></TR></TABLE>
This guy is right dudes. Hate it or love it GSR's are the better choice overall in my opinion only. Why dont you just build your LS up and do some proper tuning ...........then boost!!!! Now that will not dissappoint you!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA9GUY-637 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This guy is right dudes. Hate it or love it GSR's are the better choice overall in my opinion only. Why dont you just build your LS up and do some proper tuning ...........then boost!!!! Now that will not dissappoint you! </TD></TR></TABLE>
well a properly built LS VTEC is fun, but throw the same amount of money at the b18c, meh.......whatever you guys wanna do
This guy is right dudes. Hate it or love it GSR's are the better choice overall in my opinion only. Why dont you just build your LS up and do some proper tuning ...........then boost!!!! Now that will not dissappoint you!
</TD></TR></TABLE>well a properly built LS VTEC is fun, but throw the same amount of money at the b18c, meh.......whatever you guys wanna do
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Re: (temp)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by temp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well a properly built LS VTEC is fun, but throw the same amount of money at the b18c, meh.......whatever you guys wanna do </TD></TR></TABLE>
I see your point, but how many people have money to buy GSR motors? The same amount of money spent on a GSR swap spent on an LS block someone already has.... I think is key to why LS/VTEC motors are so popular. But for me, it's a B20vtec
well a properly built LS VTEC is fun, but throw the same amount of money at the b18c, meh.......whatever you guys wanna do
</TD></TR></TABLE>I see your point, but how many people have money to buy GSR motors? The same amount of money spent on a GSR swap spent on an LS block someone already has.... I think is key to why LS/VTEC motors are so popular. But for me, it's a B20vtec
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Re: (Toadfart)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Toadfart »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I see your point, but how many people have money to buy GSR motors? The same amount of money spent on a GSR swap spent on an LS block someone already has.... I think is key to why LS/VTEC motors are so popular. But for me, it's a B20vtec </TD></TR></TABLE>
i would hope the person who has enough to build an lsvtec has enough for a GSR motor because built properly the LSVTEC will cost more lol
I see your point, but how many people have money to buy GSR motors? The same amount of money spent on a GSR swap spent on an LS block someone already has.... I think is key to why LS/VTEC motors are so popular. But for me, it's a B20vtec
</TD></TR></TABLE>i would hope the person who has enough to build an lsvtec has enough for a GSR motor because built properly the LSVTEC will cost more lol
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Re: (temp)
where are you people gettin these price ranges from? the amount to built a ls/vtec right, is still somewhere in the $1000 LESS range then a GSR, $3000 or better.
Maybe if the LS/vtec parts were bought brand new, but noone buys a brand new head, block, crank.
Take for example, MY Ls/vtec.
it took me about 2 months to gather the parts for it, alot of which were brand new, but i sure as hell didn't spend $3000, that droppin it in the CRX too.
90 ls block, 92 GSR YS1 tranny, 88-91 SiR head, USDM Type R pistons (P73 ao), GSR water pump and oil pump (from Honda) Rock mains, rods and rings, wrist pins from Honda, Valves stem seals for head (from Honda) and on and on....total price, just shy of $2000.
Maybe if the LS/vtec parts were bought brand new, but noone buys a brand new head, block, crank.
Take for example, MY Ls/vtec.
it took me about 2 months to gather the parts for it, alot of which were brand new, but i sure as hell didn't spend $3000, that droppin it in the CRX too.
90 ls block, 92 GSR YS1 tranny, 88-91 SiR head, USDM Type R pistons (P73 ao), GSR water pump and oil pump (from Honda) Rock mains, rods and rings, wrist pins from Honda, Valves stem seals for head (from Honda) and on and on....total price, just shy of $2000.
