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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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So was at the duc dealer this afternoon and he started really dissing my RR saying the 998 would take it because of its added torque and HP.
998
Horsepower: 123 HP @ 9,750 rpm
Torque: 71.5 ft. lbs. @ 8,000
Weight: 436 lbs.
954
Horsepower: 154bhp
Torque:74.6 lbs of torque.
Weight: 370.0 pounds

I think... NOT.


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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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i think he was envious!

the duck might pull early in a drag race, with the V-twin, but you'll smoke him shortly thereafter, like when you get to the top of 1st.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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that guy should be fired. 1L twins and 1L 4s NEVER run together. Now a 750 4 vs a 1L twin... But the 1L 4 has no competition.

If he was talkign pure class and exclusivity he might have had a case... but the idiot wasnt...
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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thats kinda like when i was at a suzuki dealership and the guy there was telling this totally clueless guy that the hayabusa will outhandle GSXRs, R1, etc...
they are just trying to make a sale, they dont care what you get or if you kill yourself.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:43 PM
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**** it , It's ALL rider. These comments from stupid people don't count. What counts is railing around the outside of some dumbass on a 996 with your Frankenstein 95 CBR600 you bought for 600$..
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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arr arr! crazy canadians!
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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did you see what kind of bike won the SBK World Championship this last season?

i doubt the duc dealer was talkin about a drag race or a highway race...he's probably talkin bout on a track...who rates their motorcycles by how fast they go in a straight line anyways?
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 10:35 AM
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So was at the duc dealer this afternoon and he started really dissing my RR saying the 998 would take it because of its added torque and HP.
998
Horsepower: 123 HP @ 9,750 rpm
Torque: 71.5 ft. lbs. @ 8,000
Weight: 436 lbs.
954
Horsepower: 154bhp
Torque:74.6 lbs of torque.
Weight: 370.0 pounds

I think... NOT.


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I love Blades but the 998 (ref to the SPS) is in a different league. It would be quicker with the same rider, but never waste the Blade after all. I think the Dealer had a spot of Ducatitus which is a common disease only cured by being strapped to the back of a Busa. Now ask yourself this....even if the mighty Duke IS quicker through the twisties which one wouold take you to France and back sit for 6 months in the garage idle and then fire up on the first prod of the button? More to a bike than outright speed methinks
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 11:35 AM
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did you see what kind of bike won the SBK World Championship this last season?

i doubt the duc dealer was talkin about a drag race or a highway race...he's probably talkin bout on a track...who rates their motorcycles by how fast they go in a straight line anyways?

954 is unable to compete in SBK Superbike in the class you are refering to. The RC51 is the competition for the 998.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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Meester Park,

the 954 would WAX the 998 up the straits and into the twisties like a bad carrot.
The only bike in its (954) class is the R1. IMNSHO

the 998 DUC is a beautiful bike though, and as stated in another class Especially @ $17 large.



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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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lol yeah right..the 954 would show its azz to the 998
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 12:17 PM
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Yes, but provided the Ducati owner purchased the Biposto model -- he will be the one going home with the woman
Yes and his dog will eat the cookies and drink the milk Duc's oooze sexiness.


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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 01:20 PM
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there's a reason the 954 doesn't compete..it's not because it's too great of a bike either...it wouldn't last in SBK competition


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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 01:34 PM
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there's a reason the 954 doesn't compete..it's not because it's too great of a bike either...it wouldn't last in SBK competition


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yeah I agree, hondas are known for their lack of longevity Those Italians could teach the Japanese a thing or two! hehe
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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its not a SBK bike. it wasnt engineered as such, either.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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I'm not dissing the duc! Although I'm looking for a duc-eater sticker for my bike

Could you post another pic of that yellow thang! Please?


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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 02:07 PM
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i don't own a duc either..my point is just that the speed or power comparison that you're talking about isn't that important...to me anyways. drag racing or straight line racing on a bike is nothing compared to RIDING a bike..it's easy to point the thing straight and switch gears
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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you need to READ UP on the 954RR bud, thats all I gots to say.

This should get you started: http://www.2wf.com/articles/bike_tes...A6049FF5_2.asp
Oh, and read the specs on weight, a lighter bike usualy out handles a heavier one.

Yeah the 998 gets more lean angle, but not as much torque and not as much HP so all that noise about downshifting is irrelivant. Equal riders and the DUC will be sniffing/ingesting the RRs exhaust.




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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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fig! leave the poor duc alone! We know what we know Too bad the weathers gonna blow for this weekend BTW
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 02:59 PM
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i wasn't talking about down shifting...how often do you down shift in a drag race?
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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i wasn't talking about down shifting...how often do you down shift in a drag race?
haha you just don't get it.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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i get both of your points...i understand the 954 is a very quick and capable bike..but so is the 998. we'll just have to wait till there's a shootout on a track and a magazine does a review about it. a lot of bikes can smoke the 998 according to magazines statistics...i think in the back of Motorcyclist they compare the 1/4 mile times of almost every commercially produced sportbike.

my question to you is, if the 998 is slower, heavier, less powerful than all of those other bikes, why do they keep winning championships?
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 03:39 PM
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because they are not in the same class, thats what you've been told several times already. They will only meet on the street.
i get both of your points...i understand the 954 is a very quick and capable bike..but so is the 998. we'll just have to wait till there's a shootout on a track and a magazine does a review about it. a lot of bikes can smoke the 998 according to magazines statistics...i think in the back of Motorcyclist they compare the 1/4 mile times of almost every commercially produced sportbike.

my question to you is, if the 998 is slower, heavier, less powerful than all of those other bikes, why do they keep winning championships?
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 03:49 PM
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my question to you is, if the 998 is slower, heavier, less powerful than all of those other bikes, why do they keep winning championships?
i think you're getting the idea, Doc. How much do u know about world superbike? I mean, aside from the yearly championship?
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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