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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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I'm looking for a rear upper tie bar to compliment my Comptech front upper and rear lower. I'm looking for input from people. My main concern is wanting the bar to come up through the strut access pannels. I think that kind of limits my choices. Here's what I was thinking:

JDM ITR
Bennen (But does it go through the small pannel)
Neuspeed
DC Sports
Cusco ????

I'd like the Mugen, or Spoon braces, but I really don't want to cut the holes in my interior side pannels. I also have stereo equipment to put under the bar, so if the bar is higher, that's better. Are there other quality braces that I am not mentioning here? Thanks for any info!

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:47 AM
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For the spoon rear upper strut tower bar you don't have to cut anything except the little plastic thing on the driver side. You have to do that with all other bars.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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i've been trying to get a benen rear strut brace since end of last year, but it's still back order.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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For what you want, you can go with the Spoon which does rise up. The neuspeed actually is a really nice piece too because it has the two bolts on each side that attach to the bracket.

Skunk2 is a good one too to save some money.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 01:14 PM
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Did you think about getting the C-speed lower tie bar???

Good @ a reasonable price and jdmhondaparts.com has a pix! You can buy from them or you can find out if some o shops in the NW region carry them(Seattle/Vancouver). You can probably get'em cheaper! Dont know if AJ or Boomplustoys carrys them,but try! Oh, Cusco also makes the ft@rr lwr tie bars also!

I have Spoon Strut bars from ft to rr. Dont need to CUT anything, but for the Mugen rear strut, you do!

heh...I have Sp0000N

You'll feel the difference!
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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Lower tie bar is not worth it on DC2-R, IMHO.

To answer the original question, go w/ JDM ITR strut tower brace. No hassle and OEM quality.
(If you want to cut your panel, go w/ Mugen... )
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 02:13 PM
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My bag, I was thinking about the Skunk bar... Gotta cut with that.

Does anyone have a picture of the Spoon Rear Upper installed? I went to Spoon Japan, Inlinefour, and A&J, and coun't find a picture of it in an Integra. Thanks!

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 02:27 PM
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After a search, I found a picture of it. I also found some more information. I beleive I will be buying up the Spoon Bar. Thanks for the input!

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 02:28 PM
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Oh chit, I'm illiterate... I didn't see your sig earlier.

On a GS-R, the lower-tie bar work alright, but don't expect a huge difference. Plus, it's pain-in-the-a$$ job to put the lower-tie bar if you've never done it before. (prob. 1hr job the first time around, 'cuz the LCA drops the funk down and you've gotta use the OE scissor jack to line up the LCA and such...) I've seen a Cusco lower-tie bar on "kengs"'s ride and I've gotta admit that it looks awesome.


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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 02:31 PM
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The BENEN rear strut tower bars should be in very soon
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:08 PM
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I thinkI broke my record for last time I did the job. I put a DC rear lower on my friends Civic. From the time the jack went under, and then came back out was like 15 mins. Little extra if you count pulling out tools.

The job is SUPER easy if you take off the wheels, cause then there is a whole lot less weight out there, and the LCA's tend not to move. But if they do move, I just use the Impact Wrench, and have a buddy wiggle the suspension assembly... Works like a charm! God Bless Compressed Air Tools!

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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The BENEN rear strut tower bars should be in very soon
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good....i got all other pieces from benen. can't wait for the last piece.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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Dang your lucky to have air tools.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 04:49 PM
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What other bars do you have? also Where are you from, and how did you hear about Benen.
Thanks
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:41 PM
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I'm from Vacaville, and my other bars are Comptech. I first saw Bennen at a Car show a year or so ago. There were a whole bunch of Hatches there all with Bennen gear. Outstanding quality and workmanship. I've seen a number of other cars with the Bennen Bars. Good Stuff!

Yes, I love the 60 Galon 125 PSI Air Compressor and Snap On Pneumatic tools!!! There are so many jobs that I wouldn't even THINK about doing with out Air...
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:46 PM
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What other bars do you have? also Where are you from, and how did you hear about Benen.
Thanks
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here is a pic of benen's stuff i have so far....
i'm still waiting for their carbon fiber stuff.

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:58 PM
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damn you're lucky. what finish is that? and where are the best prices?
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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After a search, I found a picture of it. I also found some more information. I beleive I will be buying up the Spoon Bar. Thanks for the input!

Reefer_Bob.
The Spoon bar REQUIRES a little bit of trimming to both the side panels to get to fit. I dont think this bar is what you want if you dont want to cut the panels.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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Hmm... well reading other posts, I was under the impression that you didn't have to cut anything... I'm confused now... Other input anyonoe?

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:47 PM
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damn you're lucky. what finish is that? and where are the best prices?
Judging from the pics, I think they're the polished version..all of them. And as for the best place to get, I'd go with Soundbuys.com. They're having a groupbuy on it right now, so go to the Best Buy forum.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:50 PM
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What other bars do you have? also Where are you from, and how did you hear about Benen.
Thanks
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here is a pic of benen's stuff i have so far....
i'm still waiting for their carbon fiber stuff.

Whoa those are all the bars I was gonna get too. Is the top most one the cross member bar?
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:54 PM
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I have the spoon bar. It rises out of the two holes that allow access to the shocks. What do cut is the two panels that you pull out. Of course you don't have to put them back in the first place.

You don't need to cut the interior panels at all. The bar does touch the panels but other than that you don't need to cut it. The spoon bar isn't like the mugen or benen bars at all where you need to cut the interior.

I will say the nice thing about the OEM JDM ITR bar is that it rises so that you cut the center of the panel cover instead of the spoons which have you cut from the very side. The OEM bar also includes some nice trim to make the install look cleaner.

I'd take a pic of my Spoon Bar but I have no digital camera.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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Whoa those are all the bars I was gonna get too. Is the top most one the cross member bar?
Cross Member Brace
Strong Bar
Front Lower Tie Bar
Rear Lower Tie Bar


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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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SPOON!
hella light!
super stiff!
no cuts required on the permanent sidepanels!
pretty cheap for a spoon part nowadays with prices in the $160 range.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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Chiangm:
Got a quick question for you. Don't those bars come with the necessary bolts? Or do you have to buy them seperately?
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