i know not much of building engines but am learning quickly...i guess i just wat some direction..

i want a daily driver with maybe 190-200 hp
i know people shake their heads at b16 200hp goals..but money isnt an issue

i'd gladly upgrade to a 1.8L or even throw in an h22a but i dont want my engine reffed and want to play it safe with my b16

(livin in CA and the car laws are dicked)

so far

jdm b16a
itr pistons
gsr cams

thats it..other than that the engine is stock...i was thinking eagle rods..and maybe swappin out the gsr cams for skunk stage 2...im just eyeballin and am at the drawing board as to what i can do..money isnt really an issue but i'd hate to drop more than 2k into it.although it wouldnt hurt if i had too..im also planning on turboing...

also...i was thinking of swapping in an h22a and semi building it..or a b18c-r spec (jdm if i could find it)...anyone else in CA with their civic swapped with an h22 or b18..any trouble with the authorities..i'd imagine in bein a bitch to have it reffed out..anyways..thanx for the help..pardon my newbness

 

you wont be able to his 190-200 whp all motor with only 2k MAX. see your **** and boost it if you want to make 200+

 

so am i just better off swappin in that 1.8 or 2.2..whats the deal?..i wanna hear from some civic 1.8/2.2 swap people out there..arent u guys scared u'll get it reffed out the engine?..

 

You cannot use an h series block/head on a b series head/block.

 

I dont think he was saying frankinstiening the h22 w/ the b18. BUt just the two swaps.. As long as you have the paper work i think youll be fine with the authorities. With the money and time you spend with the b18 or h22 youll be better off with the b16. Imo. Though lot of people on here despise the b16 for some reason.

 

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In cali, you will get sent to the B.A.R. if they catch you with an engine swap. The best thing you can do is just turbo it with a GReddy kit (carb legal) and then modify it a little. That way you have a CARB sticker, your untouchable and your car should be around the 200 Whp mark.

 

take that $2,000 and buy a light turbo kit with CARB certification. That will put you very close if not over 200whp.

 

what do you mean by B. A. R. ?

also do you think i could pass off with a jdm b16b r-spec engine?...

why do people frown upon b16's amongst all other engine types..now i feel extremely limited

 

and i was hoping atleast 230 after a good boost set up...


also..i'd like to know what makes a b16 harder to work with as far as gain potential is concerned amongst other engine types?

 

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also..i'd like to know what makes a b16 harder to work with as far as gain potential is concerned amongst other engine types?</TD></TR></TABLE>its a torqueless 1.6L

 

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also do you think i could pass off with a jdm b16b r-spec engine?...

why do people frown upon b16's amongst all other engine types..now i feel extremely limited </TD></TR></TABLE>
i forget what bar stands for but here in cali if you do a motor swap that wasnt available for you car ie.... a b18c1 into a civic....you have to go to the state ref and make it legal with a bar sticker that way you can legally smog your car.


and no you cannot pass with a b16b because there was not a ctr offered in the states and frankly i wouldnt want a ctr motor. for the money you can get an itr and it will mrore power

 

heres what i would do, sell your block and pick up a good ls block for dirt cheap and go from there

 

how much power r u putting down right now 2 the wheels

 

throw in a turbo kit and you will see 200hp and good torque #'s too, all out of a 1.6. never under estimate a 1.6..

 

Just do a turbo kit and call it a day.

 

I say, If your gonna keep your B16, and want 200WHP, then dont build it, throw a light turbo kit on it like everyone has said. They add roughly a 50% increase in power, at low boost.

If you are gonna spend a lot of money building an engine, do it right, dont skimp on one part of it or else you might regret it later. If your gonna build the bottom end, do it all new rods/pistons/rings/etc... 3 angle valve job + port and polish the head, Skunk2 cams make good power but do ALOT of research on which cams you want and which will work best with your set up that you have choosen thus far.

I dont know what car you are putting this into, but you should look and see how hard it would be to Smog and get a BAR sticker for a 1.8L block. Wanna build an engine where money is not object?? get a GSR block and stroke it to 2.0L use that B16 head with some good cams and you will have your **** running hard. 200+HP but signifigantly more torque that a B16. Torque is what its all about.

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damn everybody has been pretty helpful i appreciate it..thanx for puttin up with my newbness..

 

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also do you think i could pass off with a jdm b16b r-spec engine?...

why do people frown upon b16's amongst all other engine types..now i feel extremely limited </TD></TR></TABLE>

Bureau of Autmotive Repair.

No it couldnt pass with a b16b because a b16b was never released in the states. People frown on b16's because their idiots. If your swapping fom a D series to a B, then yes, a b18 is the best. But if you have a b16 already, just turbo it. If you swap you'll gain MAYBE 20whp, if you turbo it, you'll gain 60 whp and it will be cheaper and less of a hassle.

 

to keep this thread rolling...besides sleeves and polished heads..what re enforcements are ESSENTIAL for maintaining a healthy engine life after adding turbo?...valves/springs/bearings/rods?...

 

HA!! you've got to be kidding me..give me 2k and i'll make 300 hp and that WHEEL hp..

 

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If you just using turbo on a b16, you shouldnt need any of that crap. The D-series does 200 whp on stock internals so i see no reason why the B16 couldnt. Of course, possibly adding ITR stuff wouldnt hurt.