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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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I'm starting this this thread to express my displeasure with another fellow racer. This weekend in Las Vegas I was out with George Ahad, testing his new Hot Rod class car. After his 3rd round qualifying pass his car stalled halfway through the turn to the return road. Justin Humphries made a pass right after him. As I got to the back of the return road I saw that his chute had snagged the wheelie bar as he passed him. He must have been going pretty fast to have pulled George's car almost a complete 180 degrees around. George's wheelie bars were twisted up lifting both back tires completely off the ground. Justin untangled his chute and you would think he would have enough decency to apologize. Wrong. Instead he just said "what the **** was the car doing there". Keep in mind the car had stalled, wouldn't fire again, and was pushed there by track officials, who were also there when it happened. A few words were exchanged and he just climbed back into his car and hooked up to the golf cart and left.
I'm sure it wasn't done purposely, but none the less, if you mess someone elses car up, you would think he would have enough common courtesy to apologize and or offer to help fix it. Some type of peace offerring. Its like he had the attitude "my car is fine, **** everyone else". This weekend I, and many other that seen it go down, lost all respect for the guy. The situation probably would have escalated had the officials not stepped in as soon as we got to the pits. I used to be a fan of his and really liked his car, now I think he and his crew are all a bunch of dicks.
We were able to fix the bars in the morning and replaced the 2 joints that were broken. Luckily a group of fellow racers, and friends had a welder in their trailer and welded them up for us. I don't know if they want to be revealed but I will get permission from them tomorrow to include their names; only to thank them for helping us out when they really didn't have to.
I just had to get this off my chest because I saw a post on here earlier with people praising him. Just thought everyone should know the truth about his sorry ***. Here are a few pics of our car and the wheelie bars after.





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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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Wow, that's was cold.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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The same thing happend to Mike Laskey in Texas. He was on the return road waiting for us and Kenny Tran came buy with his chutte wide open and pulled the rear bumper off. Kenny got off and apologized to mike and offered to pay. Very cool, but mike never got paid tho.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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Actually the fact that he offered and felt bad was good enough. Just like George's racecar, it happened to us the first time out with the remade car. It sure hurt.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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I agree that is very cold and kinda just plain stupid. This is why many think the sport will not survive. Its because of those few people who don't help out that make us all look like dicks.

That front end though is bad ***. Big props on the fab job
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:10 AM
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wasn't justin's car in an accident like this earlier this year?!
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slapshotnerd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wasn't justin's car in an accident like this earlier this year?!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, this is not the first time he has done this to anouther racer. I guess Karma will get you in the end. I beleive that was the same race he crashed his car. I could not beleive this happend and was shocked to hear what an ******* this guy was. I too was a fan...not anymore after this The fact is, it takes 2 seconds and no effort what so ever to say..."hey, sorry about that". Justin and crew.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:00 AM
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didnt Ron lummus help george out by bending the bars back in place?




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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:27 AM
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I think lummus did the entire chasis.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 03:41 AM
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We tried to bend the bars back into place later that night. They were so far out of whack, they snapped. The pictures shows how they were the next morning before being repaired.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 04:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The same thing happend to Mike Laskey in Texas. He was on the return road waiting for us and Kenny Tran came buy with his chutte wide open and pulled the rear bumper off. Kenny got off and apologized to mike and offered to pay. Very cool, but mike never got paid tho. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah the same thing happened to us a couple of years back. marty ladwig's chute caught the bars and turn the car around. bent every which way. he got down and helped us push the car. cool dude.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:02 AM
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what comes around goes around.......


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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:07 AM
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Hey guys I am not going to say whether Justin was right or wrong, not our call on the deal. The fact is that the track crew should have cleared the car, or been there to direct others around the stalled car. It was in no way Georges or his teams fault since the car had broken down or stalled.
We can only assume that Justin is stilled pissed about this happening to him in Atco. Same deal, car had broken and coasted, and then the track crew did not clear it, or direct traffic around it.

We had this happen once this year at our event in VA. to Brent Rau and luckily there was no damage to the 2 cars involved, after that we have been very specific with the track crews on how we want the return road cleared.

By the way, nice looking car guys.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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We understand that accidents happen, but it was just the attitude part after that got us.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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I can understand that, I guess he took his anger out on the wrong people.
Generally he is not like that, don't know what the problem was with him in Vegas.

Good luck with the cars.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NDRATECH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys I am not going to say whether Justin was right or wrong, not our call on the deal. The fact is that the track crew should have cleared the car, or been there to direct others around the stalled car. It was in no way Georges or his teams fault since the car had broken down or stalled.
We can only assume that Justin is stilled pissed about this happening to him in Atco. Same deal, car had broken and coasted, and then the track crew did not clear it, or direct traffic around it.

We had this happen once this year at our event in VA. to Brent Rau and luckily there was no damage to the 2 cars involved, after that we have been very specific with the track crews on how we want the return road cleared.

By the way, nice looking car guys.</TD></TR></TABLE>


correction, that was @ e-town, when justins car got all torn up.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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Sorry, you are right.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:56 AM
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wth, wackness on justin humphries part !!!! i don't know him or have had the pleasure of meeting him but it's comon courtesy racer or not, if u **** someone else's **** up of the least u can do is be apologetic. to the least or offer to pay for it or part of it like tony said. my first time on the track i had to learn a lot of unwritten rules of the trade. ie; courtesy staging. apparently he missed something growing up cuz this is common sense. on racers w/ big egos

btw, this is my first time seeing george's car after fontana. man...can't wait to see what it does when its all dialed in. see u guys @ pomona
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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I gaurantee you that Justin is still pissed off at the e-town event where his car was slung around 180 degrees almost hurt a crew member or driver and slammed his car into a light pole. We helped Justin fix his car after that and be able to make the next round. Justin is very specific on the situation so he's probably not happy about it still happening. I've also seen lack of people at events at the end from a safety standpoint and clearning people off the track. This will need to be gone over with a fine tooth comb with all sanctioning bodies and fixed for 2006 if not now so these type of incidents don't happen.

I can also say that its the drivers responsibility to clear his car off the track or out of the way and specifically when the run is over go and first thing pick up the parachutes so they are not in the way of cars coming around the corner. This way the problems don't happen again.

I'm not defending anyone in this case, but we all need to work on making sure our cars are clear of the cars coming around the corner, especially the cars that follow with classes after because they are not as familiar with the other drivers and their equipment.

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by titannero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I gaurantee you that Justin is still pissed off at the e-town event where his car was slung around 180 degrees almost hurt a crew member or driver and slammed his car into a light pole. We helped Justin fix his car after that and be able to make the next round. Justin is very specific on the situation so he's probably not happy about it still happening. I've also seen lack of people at events at the end from a safety standpoint and clearning people off the track. This will need to be gone over with a fine tooth comb with all sanctioning bodies and fixed for 2006 if not now so these type of incidents don't happen.

I can also say that its the drivers responsibility to clear his car off the track or out of the way and specifically when the run is over go and first thing pick up the parachutes so they are not in the way of cars coming around the corner. This way the problems don't happen again.

I'm not defending anyone in this case, but we all need to work on making sure our cars are clear of the cars coming around the corner, especially the cars that follow with classes after because they are not as familiar with the other drivers and their equipment.

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gravy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yeah the same thing happened to us a couple of years back. marty ladwig's chute caught the bars and turn the car around. bent every which way. he got down and helped us push the car. cool dude.</TD></TR></TABLE>

we broke the motor in the final round against marty and he hopped out of his car, ran back and helped push the car off to the side . marty is a great guy.

It was George from the bullish team who snagged the bars and spun the car around and turned our wheelie bars into a U-Turn
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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I don't know about vegas or Etown but most tracks have a return road speed limit which, if followed, should prevent stuff like that from happening. I have heard in the past justin is a dick but this proves it. screw him for sticking it to the little guy.

Justin if you read this karma is a bitch
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Justin is a cool guy in my book.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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Justin help us out.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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Sounds like Justin's a jerk and needs a good backhand.
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