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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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That's right, I've never autocross a Honda before. In fact I've only autocrossed a front wheels drive car maybe twice, ever. I have plenty of experience autocrossing rear wheel drive cars, but I've been looking at a civic lately.

What I would like is just some insight on autocrossing a fwd car. Is there really that much difference? The times I autocross one I just drove it the same way I would drive a rwd car and I did just fine.

Lets say I'm build for SM. If I were to say buy an old EF civic, and strip it, and find a way to breath a good bit of power in it - will I be in a competitive car?
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Not sure where exactly in California you are... but if you're anywhere near Sias' M3 or Kahangi's currently-ESP likely-SM-next year Evolution... eeeesh, you're in for a rough ride given the current SM ruleset for FWD cars.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jaberwocky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lets say I'm build for SM. If I were to say buy an old EF civic, and strip it, and find a way to breath a good bit of power in it - will I be in a competitive car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Strictly from a CAR perspective...

Nationally, no. Locally, yes.

Now for all the long winded speeches about working on your driving skills, going to autox schools, driving a stock car for awhile, etc.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fsp31 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Nationally, no. Locally, yes.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fsp31 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Nationally, no. Locally, yes.
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Nationally, no. Locally, maybe.

If he's in Oakland he's driving in SFR, which means that SM is dominated by all of those nasty M3's that dominate nationals every year...

as far as the differences b/w the two, i don't think it's too big of a difference. Leslie Cohen (i think she was last year's SS-L nat. champ or trophy finisher) switched to STS this year in a pretty competitive STS region (z06 to civic) and was having a pretty successful year. Not sure if she'll win nationals in the civic, but it appears her skills translated from FR to FF.

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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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I found the transition from a nose-heavy FWD strut car to a nose-heavy RWD strut car to be very easy. Going from that same nose-heavy RWD car to a CRX has proven to be much more challenging to me.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jaberwocky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Lets say I'm build for SM. If I were to say buy an old EF civic, and strip it, and find a way to breath a good bit of power in it - will I be in a competitive car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Somehow I don't think you have been paying attention to the local events. Sure you could build a SM Civic, and maybe it would be marginally "competitive" but never a dominant car. You would be much more successful in a different car for SM.

You would be much more competitive (and spend a lot less money) building a Civic for one of the Street Touring classes.
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