Say.. i was on 5000rpm in 1st gear and i shift to 3rd ( skipped 2nd), to smooth going. will this make tranny bad? or anything bad?

 

nope it shouldnt. but i wouldnt recomended.

 

No, not at all. In fact, if you over-revved it to ensire smooth clutch-flywheel engagement, it's actually better on the various impact absorbing pieces because it reduces stress. I could only see this being bad on a turbocharged car because of the sudden slowing of turbine speed but that does not apply here.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunkyDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Say.. i was on 5000rpm in 1st gear and i shift to 3rd ( skipped 2nd), to smooth going. will this make tranny bad? or anything bad? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Nah should be fine I do it all the time just like axle says<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Axle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, not at all. In fact, if you over-revved it to ensire smooth clutch-flywheel engagement, it's actually better on the various impact absorbing pieces because it reduces stress. I could only see this being bad on a turbocharged car because of the sudden slowing of turbine speed but that does not apply here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
mostly is just smoother

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LLEO245 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nope it shouldnt. but i wouldnt recomended.</TD></TR></TABLE>

whats the reason you dont recomend??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LLEO245 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nope it shouldnt. but i wouldnt recomended.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why not????????????


but yeah, its perfectly fine, i do it alot, if im driving, i usually go 1,2,3,5. skipping 4th, sometimes 1,3,5. and etc. The only time i have seen skipping gears be a problem, is my UDSM ITR tranny, if i do a second gear pull, and redline, then try to just go into 5th, it grinds, but i think this is because there is some sort of "shift gate" that is tryin to force me to go into 3rd, preventing a misshift. kinda pisses me off as i hate that sound so i have learned to put the clutch in and slide it into 3rd, then into 5th and let the clutch out.

so yeah its fine, saves some gas, and helps clutch life. (not very much of either but if u do it a lot it adds up, haha)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunkyDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

whats the reason you dont recomend??</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think the answer lies in his avatar. lol

 

weed effects ur transmission? hmm

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Axle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, not at all. In fact, if you over-revved it to ensire smooth clutch-flywheel engagement, it's actually better on the various impact absorbing pieces because it reduces stress. I could only see this being bad on a turbocharged car because of the sudden slowing of turbine speed but that does not apply here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
excuse me . . . umm . . . reduce stress? no, not possible. but i'll tell you what i think. i think since your 1-2 shift collar is toast from beating on it, and the teeth are no longer straight on the edges of the inside of it, you find it easier to use the less beaten 3-4 collar. as in, you shift 1 to 3 because 1-2 forces the 1-2 collar to go through its full range of motion, which has been comprimised because it's been through hell.

in any case, what's best for the "various impact-absorbing pieces" is #1 never use the tranny. but if you must, and you want to be as kind as possible, do a full rev-match for every upshift and downshift. then your synchros will last like forever or so. i do it in my teg very quickly. it doesn't have to take more than half a second or so. less if you have a lighter flywheel. i don't do it in my nissan so much b/c i don't really rag on it. it's fast enough i don't worry about shifting really fast or just perfectly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95lstegman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">excuse me . . . umm . . . reduce stress? no, not possible.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So what you're saying is that even though the change in engine speed when changing from 1st to 2nd is smaller (thus higher flywheel speed when the clutch connects), there is no difference in impact as compared to when you shift from 1st to 3rd where the drop in engine speed is greater which results in a lower engine speed once the clutch engages? I don't understand how that can be, is it because prior to clutch engagement, the engine speed is still the same?

 

Skipping gears is not recommended by Honda.

Their reasoning: Repeatedly shifting out of sequence, such as going 2nd to 5th, espicially when speed shifting or power shifting, can cause accelerated syncro wear which can lead to gear grinding.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Axle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So what you're saying is that even though the change in engine speed when changing from 1st to 2nd is smaller (thus higher flywheel speed when the clutch connects), there is no difference in impact as compared to when you shift from 1st to 3rd where the drop in engine speed is greater which results in a lower engine speed once the clutch engages? I don't understand how that can be, is it because prior to clutch engagement, the engine speed is still the same?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no, you can't reduce stress by skipping a gear. shifting causes wear, and the harder/faster you shift, the more wear you are causing. end of story. shift a hair slower and let the engine spin down to the right speed for the next gear (revmatch) for every upshift, and do a correct revmatch for every downshift, and always use the clutch. that's how you reduce stress. hell, i know a lot of people sit there at traffic lights shifting into and out of first gear and in general playing with the shifter. quit that **** and you'll go faaar, i tell them. stupid people man.

 

Yea thats the truth, my gf has a 91 celica and I've had to do the clutch twice and tranny once already cuz she always puts it in gear at a light and holds the car on a hill with the clutch bad wears them out so fast. I usually do a 1-3 shift getting on the highway.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackLudeSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea thats the truth, my gf has a 91 celica and I've had to do the clutch twice and tranny once already cuz she always puts it in gear at a light and holds the car on a hill with the clutch bad wears them out so fast. I usually do a 1-3 shift getting on the highway.</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn i hate when i see people riding the clutch like that. good thing my woman doesn't do that. but she does ride the clutch too much when getting moving from a stop. she slips at like 2000-2500rpm to get going, even on flat ground. oh well, i just bought her a new Exedy St. I. no lightweight flywheel for her, either.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Echo7847 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Skipping gears is not recommended by Honda.

Their reasoning: Repeatedly shifting out of sequence, such as going 2nd to 5th, espicially when speed shifting or power shifting, can cause accelerated syncro wear which can lead to gear grinding.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LLEO245 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nope it shouldnt. but i wouldnt recomended.</TD></TR></TABLE>

he recomended it cuz it doesnt work out well on a bone cruise your too pre-occupied.

 

*to the original poster:
your sig is t3h ghey, dude. weak sauce like the college of education here.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95lstegman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">she slips at like 2000-2500rpm to get going, even on flat ground.</TD></TR></TABLE>

is that bad??? then how you drive??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunkyDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that bad??? then how you drive??</TD></TR></TABLE>
YES IT'S BAD!!! well, actually it depends . . . how long do you want your clutch to last? hmmm?
personally i'm plenty good at slipping the clutch at 600rpm to 1000rpm, depending on how fast i want to get going and what mood i'm in and a lot of other stuff. sure, i'll slip it at more like 1500rpm if i'm going up a hill, but i think i'm a model of control compared to her. in any case, the car is getting a new Exedy Stage I clutch soon, so all of her previous transgressions will pass. i told her Exedy recommends a 750-mile break-in period where she's going to have to be nicer to it when it comes to getting moving, and she said she would slip it a lot lower . . . i know she knows how, she just doesn't care or something i think . . . i don't know . . . women!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by midwesta &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not????????????
but i think this is because there is some sort of "shift gate" that is tryin to force me to go into 3rd, </TD></TR></TABLE>

hi all...im new :D but i always experience gear locks...eg if im going at 45km/hr, it just wouldn't let me go into 2nd gear...similar i cant get into first gear unless im below 15km/hr.
has any1 else experienced this?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tripod &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hi all...im new :D but i always experience gear locks...eg if im going at 45km/hr, it just wouldn't let me go into 2nd gear...similar i cant get into first gear unless im below 15km/hr.
has any1 else experienced this?</TD></TR></TABLE>
how old are your clutch and pressure plate?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tripod &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hi all...im new :D but i always experience gear locks...eg if im going at 45km/hr, it just wouldn't let me go into 2nd gear...similar i cant get into first gear unless im below 15km/hr.
has any1 else experienced this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think its normal..cause my 00gsr those that too, 40k on clutch (need replaced soon)

 

i got a 98 ls and i cant get into 1st (easily, i mean i can force it in im sure, but who wants to do that lol) unless im going like &lt;10 or so, its not that big a deal i guess, just a quirk

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Echo7847 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Skipping gears is not recommended by Honda.

Their reasoning: Repeatedly shifting out of sequence, such as going 2nd to 5th, espicially when speed shifting or power shifting, can cause accelerated syncro wear which can lead to gear grinding.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Some body got it.... When you are in 1st gear, your syncro put 2 nd gear to the proper speed. When you are in second gear, the second gear syncro puts 3rd gear into the proper speed and so on. If you skip gears say 1 to 3, 3rd gear will not be at a proper speed, and when you let off the clutch both the engine and gearing will have to be cuaght up, putting lots of stress on the 2-3 syncro.

 

you cant get into first unless your really slow.. or unless you rev the engine first. god you guys dont know how to drive stick... if you put it in 1st at 30mpg your rpm will go VROOM and your car will jerk thats hwy you cant puit it in