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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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Default Which is the best route? (a theory question)

Here is what i was thinking:
If one were to take 2 identical base preludes (5th gen), and one took the I/H/E route, with maybe an adjustable FPR and vafc2.

While the other prelude spent his money on pulleys, new lighter/stronger clutch, light flywheel, light rims, and a CF hood, which do you think would pull on the other? Or which would be quicker?

Between the two, which would be more fun to drive? More reliable? Thanks guys.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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The one with I/H/E..............why?.............

The second prelude has no power..........pulleys are weak when it comes to good power gains - a clutch system won't do anything to produce power - the only advantage he has is a tad bit of weight..........

However, the first prelude doesn't need a FPR if he has a vafc2 - he doesn't even have enough mods to adjust the fuel pressure.

AND - if he has a VAFCII, i'm assuming that he's going to get it tuned - so I say Prelude 1 would pull..........
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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Yea... you can get all those light parts, but just because your car is light doesnt meant its fast. In the end power overcomes weight.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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I can see if he swapped the motor into a CRX or a light civic - then he'd win, but just changing little thigns won't make that big of a weight difference..........hell you can have a lighter person drive the car for that weight difference. I weight 320lbs...........haha..........i still smoke people though

So if you have my same prelude and put someone who weight 150lbs.........doesn't mean he'd win.........
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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depending on what intake header and exhaust you get, it could be close....

using an fpr to aid in vafc tuning works well....if you have to pull or add serious amounts of fuel with the vafc, your igniton is gonna be all messed up....

you can use an fpr to get the major adjusting done, and then use the vafc to do the fine tuning....

i think that the first would be more fun to drive....but you could be better off doing the second route first.....and then going back and making it quick....

id say do the lightening first, then get an exhaust.....then save up your money for a NICE header, you are gonna spend upward of $500, but it will be worth it....
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NaptownKing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I weight 320lbs</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn man you need to shave a few pounds, you weigh almost 200 pounds more than me, thats a big deal....thats like two full tanks of gas....you need to wear some cf shoes....
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Someone mentioned that weight wasn't too important.

But, it is a major part of the power to weight ratio. The weight of the pulleys, wheels, and flywheel will feel more significant b/c the engine uses hp to rotate them. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Yeah - its kinda hard being a meat head and into preludes - gota balance it out though.........
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scootertribe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is what i was thinking:
If one were to take 2 identical base preludes (5th gen), and one took the I/H/E route, with maybe an adjustable FPR and vafc2.

While the other prelude spent his money on pulleys, new lighter/stronger clutch, light flywheel, light rims, and a CF hood, which do you think would pull on the other? Or which would be quicker?

Between the two, which would be more fun to drive? More reliable? Thanks guys. </TD></TR></TABLE>
lighter clutch? wow didnt know they made "lighter clutches"
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92hondalude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
lighter clutch? wow didnt know they made "lighter clutches"</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, actually Exedy has some "thin" models that are lighter than their regular counterparts. I have the 'Stage 2' cerametallic 3-puck thin disc.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Yeah, I hear they make shifts quicker, and better responding.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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I would do I/H/E, and light weight flywheel. Buy the VAFC later. IMO the flywheel really makes a difference in acceleration. At least in my car it does.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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Cut the roof off for weight saving !
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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Yeah, but I heard that the RPMs rise AND FALL quickly - so when you shift.......unless you're quick, you might fall out of vtec.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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You are absolutely right. If I don't keep the throttle depressed when I'm shifting they fall really hard. BUT if you do that it goes like stink.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Quick solution - get better cams

Better cams - meaning they can make power to 9k+.........so if your rpms do fall - you'll still be in vtec and you have more room to make power......
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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LOL, yeah I know! S2S2's next year hopefully.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92hondalude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
lighter clutch? wow didnt know they made "lighter clutches"</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just because an aftermarket clutch doesn't say "lighter", doesn't mean it's not lighter than stock.

I have an Exedy Cerametallic 3-puck and it's lighter than stock by a good bit. The "Thin" version of the Cerametallic 3-puck is even lighter, but it gives up the extra weight by shaving the friction surface of the pad material.
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