Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

wuts a knock sensor do?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 07:37 PM
  #1  
tss201secreto's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: Union City, NJ, United States
Default wuts a knock sensor do?

wut does it do ? please explain....
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 07:46 PM
  #2  
komat's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,721
Likes: 2
From: morgantown, wv, usa
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (tss201secreto)

i believe it detects knock
if it does knock it retards the timing
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 07:56 PM
  #3  
donut.'s Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 190
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (komat)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by komat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i believe it detects knock
if it does knock it retards the timing</TD></TR></TABLE>

Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 07:58 PM
  #4  
A-busive's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 350
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, Ok, USA
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (komat)

stil confused what knocks
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:02 PM
  #5  
Bond's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,429
Likes: 2
From: B.C. Canada
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (A-busive)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by A-busive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stil confused what knocks</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pretty much to sum things up: Us eg guy's don't have one so when we "ping" we have to either adjust the timing or get a higher octane fuel to make it go away. From what I understand, the knock sensor detects the ping and retards the timing to the point where it no long "pings" or knocks. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I think I have it right.
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:10 PM
  #6  
hnp5's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: around, nj, usa
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (Bond)

and if theres anything wrong with the knock sensor or connected the wrong way does it give problems when 1st turn on ur car when is cold, perhaps in the morning like rpm's fluctuating or anything of that sort?
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:13 PM
  #7  
Bond's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,429
Likes: 2
From: B.C. Canada
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (cuban0)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cuban0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and if theres anything wrong with the knock sensor or connected the wrong way does it give problems when 1st turn on ur car when is cold, perhaps in the morning like rpm's fluctuating or anything of that sort? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds like your having a problem with your FITV. Clean it out and the morning surging should go away.
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:17 PM
  #8  
hnp5's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: around, nj, usa
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (Bond)

and where can i find the FITV?
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:19 PM
  #9  
shamoo's Avatar
Will you make something up for me please?
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,375
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (Bond)

A knock sensor, as stated before detects "knock." When an engine knocks (sometimes called "pings"), it is detonating.

The flame front isn't propogating the correct way inside the combustion chamber. This can be caused by any number of factors. Running too lean, incorrect timing, etc. If this happens, there are a number of explosions that happen before the flame front hits it (creating intense hot spots in the chamber/head/block). The pressures from this are intense and can cause lots of damage. Cylinder walls can crack, rods and bend/break, valves can snap, etc.

On a stock motor, a knock sensor detects these knocks/pings and retards the timing a little until there is no more knock. It is just a safety system. For example, if you run 87 octane gas in your GSR, it will retard timing (and reduce performance a little) so that you don't knock.

If you do something crazy, such has have a badly tuned turbo setup, the knock sensor can only do so much.
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:23 PM
  #10  
hnp5's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: around, nj, usa
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (shamoo)

thanx....and where can i find the FITV?
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:29 PM
  #11  
shamoo's Avatar
Will you make something up for me please?
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,375
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (cuban0)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cuban0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanx....and where can i find the FITV? </TD></TR></TABLE>

If your car even has one, it'll be located right under the throttle body.
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:39 PM
  #12  
hnp5's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: around, nj, usa
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (shamoo)

and if theres anything wrong with the knock sensor or connected the wrong way does it give problems when 1st turn on ur car when is cold, perhaps in the morning like rpm's fluctuating or anything of that sort?
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 09:07 PM
  #13  
Bond's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,429
Likes: 2
From: B.C. Canada
Default Re: wuts a knock sensor do? (cuban0)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cuban0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and if theres anything wrong with the knock sensor or connected the wrong way does it give problems when 1st turn on ur car when is cold, perhaps in the morning like rpm's fluctuating or anything of that sort?</TD></TR></TABLE> I don't think the knock sensor works untill the car is at normal operating temp. It really sounds like your FITV (Fast Idle Thermo Valve) is acting up. The FITV is only on when coolent is cold (warm-up) and raises the idle. It is quite common for the FITV to act up and cause surging idle when warming up.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
DelSol-B-18
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
20
Mar 5, 2013 07:21 PM
alexsracing
Drag Racing
4
Jul 1, 2007 11:54 AM
NA JDM GSR
Acura Integra
19
Sep 5, 2006 09:33 AM
AnAccordIsForever
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
6
Jan 24, 2006 11:13 AM
toooslow
Tech / Misc
5
Apr 24, 2003 04:24 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:16 PM.