hey guys i have a 94 accord and im trying to decide what to do with it, ive heard that the h22a's bottom end isnt build or ready "outta the box" for a turbo. so would it be worth buying the h22 build up the bottom end for turbo then wait a while till i get more money and then put the turbo on or just try and go n/a with the h22 and build the whole motor up with the mind of running n/a?? i keep spending all my money on little stuff and i keep wanting to make my car faster so now i have been saving but cant make up my mind........let me know what you think or have encountered with your experiences. thanks

 

if u wunt to go turbo without alot of money keep the stock F22 and turbo it..it has low compression stock and the bottom end can withstand quite a bit of boost stock, i think it was sumwhere around 8-10 psi on completely stock internals...the h22a isnt bad either, if i had the money i wud go for the h22...but its really wut u wunt to do with the car, what are ur goals, and of course ur budget

 

F-series turbo

 

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well my goals with this car is make it faster, but then isnt that everyone goal. no but i want my car to be quick just for cruizin around town and the occational race here and there, i dont have much money b/c i am in school for auto tech but i am saving a good amount. but i dont have enough for the h22 and the turbo so you guys would say just boost the f22?? is there anything that i can do to the f22 to make it a little better just for a little extra durability or last?? thanks for the advise so far

 

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regular maintanence is all u need to make the accord engines last, honda makes good shyt...and if tuned and maintained properly i have heard stories of F22 turbos lasting well into 150k+ and still goin strong

 

I have heard that boosting F series is better, Im trying to do the same but i'm swaping my motor with an F22b, I have heard nothing but good things about this motor when turbo is installed.

 

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I run a turbo f22b1 with all stock internals, head, intake manifold, tb, etc... with basically only a nice custom turbo kit and some fuel management it makes some pretty great power / killer torque.

My motor has seen as much as 12 psi (11.8 technically but whatever)... tuned of course.

 

Stick with the F22 and keep it well maintained!

 

I have seen a Civic with a H22 in it. It was turboed on an all stock motor pushing 550whp. You will NEVER get that out of a stock F motor. IMO if you have the $$$$ go for the swap and turbo.

For more help when it comes to turbo cars talk to Stan at Fast-Turbo, he knows his **** when it comes to making alot of hp from stock motors.

http://www.fast-turbo.com/

 

hey wat kinda fuel mang. are u using?? and i have a 94 lx so it dosent have the vetc model... would that make any diff. i was thinkin about buyin a vtec model and putting a could bucks into the bottom end then puttin the turbo. wat do u guys think about that, and what do u think would be the first thing i would buy to hop-up the engine a little. thanks a lot you guys have helped me out alot now i just gotta wait for xmas lol

 

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I run a turbo f22b1 with all stock internals, head, intake manifold, tb, etc... with basically only a nice custom turbo kit and some fuel management it makes some pretty great power / killer torque.
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I ran mine for two years with the Fmax kit (tuned at around 8psi) on stock internals and never had any problems. Just make sure you get it tuned right and BEFORE you go turbo, get a tune-up and fix all pre-turbo problems.

 

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Hondata or Neptune

 

h22 turbo if yo uplan on making ALOT power

f22 turbo if you want good streetable power

ima h22 turbo guy so i have a bias opinion

 

 

To turbo the H22 you will need lower compression pistons and will need to resleeve the block.
=lots of money

F-series turbo

 

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That is so far from the truth. You CAN run a turbo on a stock H22, and make lots of power reliably to. Read my first post.

 

haha 550hp civic on a stock block eh ricer dave?

must be because its in a civokk!

dont bother getting an h22 to boost unless you have infinite pockets. i'd much rather have an f turbo, hey- if you get a little too crazy all you have to do is find some sucker on here that crashed his cord and pick up the longblock.

i bought a $900 94 accord EX 160 k miles - motor checks out 100% - selling my h22 lude that has $9000 of my $ in it, just to rock this accord hardcore.

Do the right thing F.

 

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I am not going to sit here and argue with a bunch of whiny schoolgirls that don't know what they are talking about. YES it made 550whp on 18psi on pump gas.

Just call Stan at http://www.fast-turbo.com if you have more questions on how to turbo your car, because obviously these clowns here don't know what they are talking about.

Or go into the Forced Induction part of Honda-tech. Those guys actually will have some good info for you.

With forced induction of any kind it is all about how well the car is tuned. If you have a good tune your stock motor WILL BE RELIABLE.

 

All I'm saying is he doesn't have a lot of money, and the F is already in his car. Why spend the money to swap in an H22, when with less money he can just go turbo and be making more power? He said he's in college and I doubt if he can afford to swap in an H22 and then turbo that.

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I am not going to sit here and argue with a bunch of whiny schoolgirls that don't know what they are talking about. YES it made 550whp on 18psi on pump gas.

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I'm calling BS. It seems you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. I guarantee you won't get that much power out of a stock H22. 18 psi? haha. I'm sure. The rings/landings would be the first to go, if the crappy frm sleeves even held up. I don't care how good your tune is you won't make that kind of power on the stock bottom end.

You can conservatively boost at like 8-10psi on the stock bottom of an H22. I've even seen 14psi with a very small turbo, but 550whp @18psi? BS.

 

ok guys im not asking who can make what with the h22 i was just wondering if it is worth saving longer to get the h22 or can i get the same amount of power outta the f22 right now, and yes i have a very limited budjet and i am in college so i think i am going to go with the f22. now would it make much difference if i had the f22b1 or f22b2 (ones VTEC) or not? is there anything that i can do to make the f22 a little stonger, like i am talking like 100-300 bucks just to make it a little stronger for the turbo?? thanks guys and how about not telling me about what your friend ran on his h22 with x amount of boost. ya i have friends too that run some sick stuff. well let me know about that stuff later guys

 

what companies make turbo kits for the f series and what do you need to do to your engine to get it ready for the turbo??? and he might like to know how much a h22 would cost verse a turbo kit and all the **** you need to do the install.

 

YES that would be alott help with what i am trying to decide... thank you for posting that, i will be doing the install myself b/c i am going to school for automotive tech and will get credit for doing it in lab. thanks

 

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I'm calling BS. It seems you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. I guarantee you won't get that much power out of a stock H22. 18 psi? haha. I'm sure. The rings/landings would be the first to go, if the crappy frm sleeves even held up. I don't care how good your tune is you won't make that kind of power on the stock bottom end.

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apparently you arent sure of what you can do with stock internals.... i've had quite a few friends that are boosted with stock all around. i know off subject, but a b18 boosted, running 12psi pushing 450hp. highly possible and is possible. he is driving it right now. if you doubt what ricerocketdave is saying, then man up and call fast-turbo. i work up there occasionally, and stan knows his ****. it might be that you just dont know about boosting a stock motor. you might just not know b/c you've never seen it..... but just b/c you have never seen it, doesnt mean its not true.

you wanna call bs on a 500hp boosted k20 with stock internals??? try me......

as for skyakord, i stick with the f-series and boost that. that seems to fit what you are wanting, that is if you are wanting boost. otherwise, a h22 would be n/a eith some minor work.... it seems it is up to you in what you are wanting to do.... boost or go n/a

if you want big bling factor.... go with the h22 boosted... that is definite hotness..