My 02 TL-S tranny started slipping over the weekend. Im driving and all of a sudden its like someone threw it in neutral, then BANG back into gear. I had bought the car ised and im not sure if the recall was done or not. Where can I call to find out. I called Acura but I was on hold for 45 minutes. Anyone know what I should do? Should I call the dealer or do I need to call Acura and let them know? Any help would be appreciated.

 

Call your dealer and make a appointment to get a new trans, make sure to get a loaner car (request it)

 

Yeah...call them and set it up, there is no limit on how many times the tranny can be replaced or repaired...even if you bought it at a dealer besides Acura, the warranty covers all of them for 7 years or 100,000miles...so yeah, just bring it in, they'll fix it, and while you CAN request a loaner, most of the dealerships have stopped giving TSX loaners and started using their body/repair shops rental car companion company...usually Hertz or Budget.

Before i traded my CL-S for my bimmer...i had an F150, Grand Prix, Saab, and TSX...out of all of them, the Saab was probobly the best (because it was a convertible)...i asked everytime for a loaner but only got it on the first time in.

FYI...the recall is there to replace the tranny's when they go bad, it does not fix the problem, it just gives you a new or repaired tranny. I went through 4 of them before trading my CL-S in...when you get it fixed, dont expect it to be permanent, only very few people have had theirs replaced, then never had any problems afterwards...like maybe 2-3% of the owners out there are lucky enough to have no problems.

 

Called the dealer, they test drove it, couldnt find anything wrong the first time, but on the second trip the tranny" started to act up". Long story short, Im getting a new tranny. YEAH! I aslo called Acura customer service and they told me that my TL if fact had the 7 year, 100,000 warr. on it. Good to know. I didnt even request the loaner, the wife is using her 98 prelude, that is for sale if anyone is interested! Thanks. Guys!

 

All of them have the 7year/100k warranty. There is a rumor that started earlier this year that the mileage might be changed to 150k, but i havent looked at that in months, given i dont own my CL-S anymore.

And everytime i brought my CL-S in...that same scenario happened...the first drive they wouldnt find anything, then either on the 2nd drive, or one of the times on the way BACK from the first drive...they'd have the issues. One of the times the damn thing wouldnt even go into reverse when they tried to get it out of the service bay...so yeah...lol.

Dont get too excited about having a new tranny though...chances are if you keep it for another year, you'll end up in the same boat again. Hopefully not but chances are good you will.

 

As long as if fails, it will go back again. and again and again. If the tranny is bad why would they replace it with the same one only newer? As far as the recall, they said it was an oil jet that had to be replaced, everytime the tranny is replaced is that checked upon to see if its still up to par? If it keeps up, I'll demand them to put me in a new one. HA HA! Hopefully those trannys are fine. I guess we will see what happens>

 

those tranny would be fine for a while...but eventually it would fail again...trust me i know because i am on my third tranny already and my tls only have 58xxx miles...

 

The oil jet upgrade is what is done initially before a tranny is replaced...you dont have much choice whether they do that and send you on your way or they go ahead and change your tranny...but the oil jet upgrade has helped maybe a handful of the people that purchased these cars...like i said, a HUGE majority of us just had it done and brought the car back when the tranny failed a week or so later...mine failed 2 days after they did that oil jet replacement. (which took 2 days...lol).

They dont have a fix for this because it would involve building an entirely new transmission. The tiptronic tranny in these cars (as well as many auto's out of other cars like the prelude and odyssey van...) all have the same issues, and since they have tons of those trannys, their hope is that they'll fix it and it'll stay fixed...for atleast long enough to get the car out of warranty...hahaha. Its sad but true, they do not have a permanent fix for the transmission.

 

My oil jet was done in Nov 04. I bought the car Dec 28 04( Merry x mas)! Now in Aug 05 it took its ****. From what I know this is the first replacement. Why would they replace the old tranny with the same one if its only gonna fail again? What up with this ****?

 

I just explained that man...they dont have a new transmission for these cars, they have "new" tranny's that all have the same problems, but they do not have a version of the transmission that can hold up to the kind of situations this car can put a transmission through, if they did, they would replace it with a new tranny and all would be ok.

Thats why theres such a huge warranty on them...because they'll just keep putting the tranny's in there until you hit 7 years or 100,000 miles...after that time, who knows what they'll do, but im sure at that point, law suits will start showing their ugly face...people trying to get tranny's after their 100,000k hits and they are turned away.

You've asked "Why?" a couple of times now...and the reason is simple...its cheaper for Honda to replace the tranny's, then to create an entirely new transmission, engineer it, test it and get it ready to go to swap into the CL and TL Type-S cars...its easier just to use the tranny's they have...rebuild some and keep using them over and over again. Its all about money...always will be. And this is why i drive a BMW now...

 

Thanks for clearing it all up. Oh well what are you gonna do huh? I'll keep it till its paid for then Bye Bye!

 

Whats the years of TL's thats covered under this recall? If i can remember correctly its the 00 and up, and not the 99's. I have a 99 (not type s) and the car has 97k miles and still on its original tranny. If it does not include the 99, whats the difference in trannys? BTW, mine also incorporates the sport shift or tiptronic (whatever u want to call it) feature.

 

I think it was when the motor was upgraded...and yes, im pretty sure it was 2000-2004(early models of the new gen had the same tranny issues...well...similar).

The main issue trannies are out of the CL Type-S and TL Type-S...because of the horsepower and torque incorporated in that package...it fails transmissions alot faster than the others included in the recall.

 

I think sometimes they make exceptions on 99 models as well, so I have heard. I have had my 02 TL-S for 6 months now and never had any trouble with the tranny. I was getting an oil change last week at the dealer and found out that the tranny has never been in on recall. I must have that golden transmission , lets hope it stays that way

 

I have an 02 Type S with no tranny problems yet either.. one of the lucky ones I guess

 

Had a good friend of mine with a CL-S when i had mine...he made the comment that he'd had his for well over 2 years, then about a month later...it was in the shop for the tranny...the transmission issues sometimes just sprout up with NO warning what so ever...

 

my tranny went out on 54000 miles....i was heated

 

my tranny is still running strong at 306,000kms thats orginal tranny and engine

acura vigor tho

 

Just to clarify a few things about the 2nd gear recall. This recall has NOTHING to do with slipping/surging during upshifts or downshifts etc. This recall remedies the 2nd gear overheating problem due to poor lubrication to 2nd gear inside the trans. The oil jet kit WILL NOT fix the other issues with this trans. I am a Honda tech and have replaced lots of Acura/Honda trans and from what I have seen the clutch packs inside these auto trannies break apart which blocks the orifice holes inside the valve body/clutch pack assemblies. Its funny because even as a tech, Honda wont tell us what makes these transmissions so poor. They just want them replaced. BTW the 99 TL models arent covered under the warranty extension but Ive done several under warranty after the regular 4yr/50k warranty had expired. Also TL or TL-S models <U>both</U> have trans issues regardless. I have done more TL models than TL-s models. HTH

 

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But can be directly related...which does kind of envelope...well...any transmission issue that you may come across with these cars.

Was the rumor true about the extension to 150k? I remember before i sold my CL-S it was going around, but i never really looked into it since i didnt keep the car...

 

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BTW the 99 TL models arent covered under the warranty extension but Ive done several under warranty after the regular 4yr/50k warranty had expired. Also TL or TL-S models <U>both</U> have trans issues regardless. I have done more TL models than TL-s models. HTH</TD></TR></TABLE>

When the warranty extension first came out, 99TLs were not included. But soon after (1 month or so) 99TLs were covered under the 7year/100k mile tranny warranty extension.

And you have probably done more TL-S models since they were only sold from 02-03. From the acurazine forum, it "seems" to me that the problems are more prevalent in the type-s models.

 

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When the warranty extension first came out, 99TLs were not included. But soon after (1 month or so) 99TLs were covered under the 7year/100k mile tranny warranty extension.

And you have probably done more TL-S models since they were only sold from 02-03. From the acurazine forum, it "seems" to me that the problems are more prevalent in the type-s models. </TD></TR></TABLE>

U pretty much covered what i wanted to say and u even answered a question i was gonna ask, lol .