post i read about adding terpentine? to fuel or something like it..
i read a post not to long ago about a discusion for adding something like terpentine or some other time of chemical like that to your fuel...i think it made the fuel burn more complete or something...can someone point me to where that post is...thanks..
its called taluline and you mix it with your gas to up the octane before it wasnt quite worth the hassel but with todays gas prices id say pump some 87 in there and add some of that **** lol
oooo sorry its still paint thinner and it still works
didnt know i had to be a rocket scientist
or some fat geek that stays up all night finding the stupidest **** to correct about ppl helping other ppl out you could have done away with the rocket scientist comment but thanks for the clearification on toluene.
didnt know i had to be a rocket scientist
or some fat geek that stays up all night finding the stupidest **** to correct about ppl helping other ppl out you could have done away with the rocket scientist comment but thanks for the clearification on toluene.
gasoline...vasoline...what's the difference? They're both petroleum products, right?
Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities...I retract the rocket scientist comment, which, btw, wasn't directed at you specifically.
Modified by davens at 4:38 AM 9/7/2005
Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities...I retract the rocket scientist comment, which, btw, wasn't directed at you specifically.
Modified by davens at 4:38 AM 9/7/2005
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dave you crack me up.
dave you crack me up.
Orginal post, maybe a week ago.
Some asked if anyone tried putting Acetone in thier gas tank.
I wouldnt do it, anyone seen what acetone dose to rubber= destroys it!
nice to see what happens to you fuel lines, etc...
Some asked if anyone tried putting Acetone in thier gas tank.
I wouldnt do it, anyone seen what acetone dose to rubber= destroys it!
nice to see what happens to you fuel lines, etc...
maybe if someone were to actually take time and experiment with different chemicals, but just trying and guessing at different things is going to result in some destruction
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i've heard of adding some georgia moonshine to the gas, but not acetone.
don't put anything but gasoline in the gasoline tank-- premium if the car requires it.
no cleaners, 'boosters', snake oil...etc.
don't put anything but gasoline in the gasoline tank-- premium if the car requires it.
no cleaners, 'boosters', snake oil...etc.
The Acetone is supposed to break the surface tension of the Gasoline, allowing for a more complete burn.
Now, let's remember that the "Gasoline" we put in our cars is just that; "Gasoline."
It is NOT Gasoline. There are myriad other chemicals already put into it.
Here in the Prarie State, my "Gasoline" is 10% Ethanol, and then EVERY company adds their own special additive package. So, we begin with Gasoline, but by the time it goes into my tank, it's "Gasoline (In the sense that while it retains the name, it is in fact a combination of chemicals and additives)."
I understand the caution, but I do not feel it is necesary to instantly dismiss things.
For instance, people laugh at the Toulene (Spelling?), but it is in fact used in Racing, etc.
The logic behind the Acetone is good, but I also share the concern over damage to the rubber parts.
Now, in regards to this, we must recall that:
1. Our hoses, seals, etc are NOT Natural Rubber, as such they are MUCH more resistant to damage than the common conception goes.
2. I have a 10 Gallon Tank, that is 1,280 fl. oz. of Petrol. Abiding by the theory's rules, I would have a 1,280:1 ratio of Gasoline to Acetone. This is a negligible amount, as we need it simply to break the surface tension, and not be used as a fuel.
3. Ozone REALLY eats up plastics. Despite this, the hoses last quite some time. This is due to the small amounts of ozone present in the lower atmosphere. So, I'd imagine this small amount of acetone wouldn't be the end of the world.
4. ACETONE CAN BE PURCHASED IN A PLASTIC BOTTLE. This proves that there are plastics resistant to Acetone. Now, Cheap plastics ARE EATEN away by acetone, literally (I once accidentally got some acetone on a plastic cup while I was Fiberglassing, the acetone melted a hole in the cup...). The Harder, more expensive plastics are actually resistant to Acetone. Something tells me Auto manufacturers would opt for the better, more resistant plastics/rubbers for vital components (And Honda has 4-wheel Double-wishbone suspension and roller arms amongst the "Luxury" technologies used on their economy cars, and so Logic would follow that if they would add such things as that, they would not use crap plastic/rubber. Just look at the headliner for some evidence; while other manufacturers cheaped out wherever possible, Honda used an AMAZINGLY resistant and well constructed piece of foam here. Where as atmospheric exposure DESTROYED many other 1990 car's headliner foam, mine is still top-notch).
So, while I am cautious, I do not dismiss this idea for said reasons.
Now, let's remember that the "Gasoline" we put in our cars is just that; "Gasoline."
It is NOT Gasoline. There are myriad other chemicals already put into it.
Here in the Prarie State, my "Gasoline" is 10% Ethanol, and then EVERY company adds their own special additive package. So, we begin with Gasoline, but by the time it goes into my tank, it's "Gasoline (In the sense that while it retains the name, it is in fact a combination of chemicals and additives)."
I understand the caution, but I do not feel it is necesary to instantly dismiss things.
For instance, people laugh at the Toulene (Spelling?), but it is in fact used in Racing, etc.
The logic behind the Acetone is good, but I also share the concern over damage to the rubber parts.
Now, in regards to this, we must recall that:
1. Our hoses, seals, etc are NOT Natural Rubber, as such they are MUCH more resistant to damage than the common conception goes.
2. I have a 10 Gallon Tank, that is 1,280 fl. oz. of Petrol. Abiding by the theory's rules, I would have a 1,280:1 ratio of Gasoline to Acetone. This is a negligible amount, as we need it simply to break the surface tension, and not be used as a fuel.
3. Ozone REALLY eats up plastics. Despite this, the hoses last quite some time. This is due to the small amounts of ozone present in the lower atmosphere. So, I'd imagine this small amount of acetone wouldn't be the end of the world.
4. ACETONE CAN BE PURCHASED IN A PLASTIC BOTTLE. This proves that there are plastics resistant to Acetone. Now, Cheap plastics ARE EATEN away by acetone, literally (I once accidentally got some acetone on a plastic cup while I was Fiberglassing, the acetone melted a hole in the cup...). The Harder, more expensive plastics are actually resistant to Acetone. Something tells me Auto manufacturers would opt for the better, more resistant plastics/rubbers for vital components (And Honda has 4-wheel Double-wishbone suspension and roller arms amongst the "Luxury" technologies used on their economy cars, and so Logic would follow that if they would add such things as that, they would not use crap plastic/rubber. Just look at the headliner for some evidence; while other manufacturers cheaped out wherever possible, Honda used an AMAZINGLY resistant and well constructed piece of foam here. Where as atmospheric exposure DESTROYED many other 1990 car's headliner foam, mine is still top-notch).
So, while I am cautious, I do not dismiss this idea for said reasons.
i put a gallon of toluene and filled the rest of the tank with 91 octane california "gasoline" in my 91 crx hf with 1st-gen b16a and it ran fine. i know the octane rating was overkill with my stock compression b16a, but the point is that it ran fine.
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4. ACETONE CAN BE PURCHASED IN A PLASTIC BOTTLE. This proves that there are plastics resistant to Acetone. Now, Cheap plastics ARE EATEN away by acetone, literally (I once accidentally got some acetone on a plastic cup while I was Fiberglassing, the acetone melted a hole in the cup...). The Harder, more expensive plastics are actually resistant to Acetone. Something tells me Auto manufacturers would opt for the better, more resistant plastics/rubbers for vital components (And Honda has 4-wheel Double-wishbone suspension and roller arms amongst the "Luxury" technologies used on their economy cars, and so Logic would follow that if they would add such things as that, they would not use crap plastic/rubber. Just look at the headliner for some evidence; while other manufacturers cheaped out wherever possible, Honda used an AMAZINGLY resistant and well constructed piece of foam here. Where as atmospheric exposure DESTROYED many other 1990 car's headliner foam, mine is still top-notch).
So, while I am cautious, I do not dismiss this idea for said reasons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You make a great point here. I once put gasoline in a cheap plastic cup and it did the exact same thing. Gasoline is a very destructive chemical to plastics and cheap rubber. I have the feeling that if the rubber was built to withstand gasoline, it will most likely withstand acetone as well.
But, there is only one want to find out.
4. ACETONE CAN BE PURCHASED IN A PLASTIC BOTTLE. This proves that there are plastics resistant to Acetone. Now, Cheap plastics ARE EATEN away by acetone, literally (I once accidentally got some acetone on a plastic cup while I was Fiberglassing, the acetone melted a hole in the cup...). The Harder, more expensive plastics are actually resistant to Acetone. Something tells me Auto manufacturers would opt for the better, more resistant plastics/rubbers for vital components (And Honda has 4-wheel Double-wishbone suspension and roller arms amongst the "Luxury" technologies used on their economy cars, and so Logic would follow that if they would add such things as that, they would not use crap plastic/rubber. Just look at the headliner for some evidence; while other manufacturers cheaped out wherever possible, Honda used an AMAZINGLY resistant and well constructed piece of foam here. Where as atmospheric exposure DESTROYED many other 1990 car's headliner foam, mine is still top-notch).
So, while I am cautious, I do not dismiss this idea for said reasons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You make a great point here. I once put gasoline in a cheap plastic cup and it did the exact same thing. Gasoline is a very destructive chemical to plastics and cheap rubber. I have the feeling that if the rubber was built to withstand gasoline, it will most likely withstand acetone as well.
But, there is only one want to find out.
Its not that the plastic is "cheap" for the reasoning behind Acetone melting it.
I work in a mold shop (or a machine shop)
With the mold work im around thermoplastics all the time.
Acetone wont eat through a plastic chinese food soup container, so i guess the chinese man i know who runs the molds for the different size soup containers and who is cheap as **** (really ****** cheap) is using "HIGH QUALITY" polypropylene.
Differnet plastics for different applications.
I work in a mold shop (or a machine shop)
With the mold work im around thermoplastics all the time.
Acetone wont eat through a plastic chinese food soup container, so i guess the chinese man i know who runs the molds for the different size soup containers and who is cheap as **** (really ****** cheap) is using "HIGH QUALITY" polypropylene.
Differnet plastics for different applications.
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