alright so I live in california and from what I hear it is a bitch to swap jdm engines but can be done if emissions is done properly. Which leads me to my question,

I will not be able to use the jdm ecu that comes with the b16a hmotors kit so what ecu will I use?

Also what intake mani, exhaust mani, and cat will work with this swap? Will they bolt up to stock muffler or should I just replace that too?

I know I am asking a lot and trust me I have researced this for the past 2 weeks now and have come up empty handed, so if I am double posting I am sorry but I just need answers soon. Thanks.

 

anyone?

 

seriously?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by west nile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright so I live in california and from what I hear it is a bitch to swap jdm engines but can be done if emissions is done properly. Which leads me to my question,

I will not be able to use the jdm ecu that comes with the b16a hmotors kit so what ecu will I use?

Also what intake mani, exhaust mani, and cat will work with this swap? Will they bolt up to stock muffler or should I just replace that too?
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You will need to basically wire up the motor as a USDM B16 Del sol DOHC VTEC

I believe you'll need the intake manifold and a P30 ECU. as far as the exahaust manifold you can use the JDM one, stock cat but I think you'll need a muffler shop to weld an extension to bolt up the down pipe to cat. But if the cat is pretty old might want to replace it.

 

I swapped a B16 into my 88 Rex.

If your harness is still OBD 0, use the PR 3 ECU, if its an OBD 1 you can use a P28, P30, or P72

Exhaust manifold bolted right where my stock cat is located. i didnt need any extensions. The intake is the same, i think the trottle body has to be either an OBD 0 or 1 depending on your wiring harness.

Good luck

 

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If your harness is still OBD 0, use the PR 3 ECU, if its an OBD 1 you can use a P28, P30, or P72


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He is talkin about Cali smog and bar'ing the car..

I have the intake manifold I can sell ya

 

Nice! Thanks guys. Outsane I'll pm you.

 

So I am talking to the shop that is going to install my b16 and they say that I don't even have to worry about smogging the engine doesn't matter that it is jdm will still pass smog. WHAT? Should I look for another shop or what they should know that things need to be changed in order to get to pass cali smog, or are they just looking at it from a business side and just trying to get my money for the swap?

What do you guys think?

 

They should know that a B-series motor will not pass the visual inspection at California smog shops. It sounds like they don't want to do the extra work of changing the car over to OBD-1 properly to pass California smog the right way.

Of course, they COULD mean that it should still pass the tailpipe test, which, whether its JDM or not, should, as long as its been maintained and is in good running order. They also might not be familiar with the visual portion of the test, but I'd hope they are, if they're offering to do your whole swap the "right way"..

 

i you want just give the smog guy/girl a lil extra money to pass you... its not like your car is obd2 where they hook up a lot more things to check for emission.. theyll probably just print you out a certificate that you passed..

 

well I doubt the smog girl/guy would do that, shops are too scared now days of losing their licence, and if I get pulled over and cop asks my to pop my hood I want to be able to point to the bar sticker and not have to worry about my car getting impounded.

seriously I think they are just doing the same thing your saying mr. crx, sure it will pass the sniffer but it sure as hell won't pass visual, that is hella shaddy they are saying that. I mean if I was some uneducated kid off the street and had no knowlege of smogging swaps I would have a car that I couldn't drive until I could get bar'd. Oh well at least I know, hmmm this should be an interesting conversation. Thanks guys,
Cody

 

Smogging a JDM engine is really not a big deal. There are three things it looks like you have to do:

1. Have all emissions equipment on there. The only visual problem with my setup before I got bar'd was that I had a JDM purge solenoid. That was really picky, and I'm nto sure that gets caught a lot of the time. Technically speaking, though, all emissions equipment has to be USDM.

2. Get a USDM ecu for that del sol vtec. simple.

3. Convert to obd-1, like the del sol vtec.

That should pass you visually, no problem.
As long as you can prove that the jdm engine has a US equivalent, which it does (b16 del sol vtec, usdm), you are fine.

Then you need to pass the tailpipe sniffer, which if you have a healthy motor and a good cat should be no problem.

 

does the car have to be obd-0 if thats what was originally?

 

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The motor has to be newer than the year of your car, and wired up like it was in the car it came from.

So, a 1995 Del Sol VTEC, had an obd1 b16, so your b16, if you want to pass the BAR test, you have to wire it up obd1. Now, if you want to put a b18a in your car, you can keep it obd-0 as long as the motor is from a 90-91 Integra. I'm sure you could also convert a 92-93 LS motor to obd-0 as well, since its essentially the same engine that was offered in 90-91, but I'd talk to your referee before you go about doing that.

My referee down here in San Diego was really nice and wasn't too picky about things. I didn't have my PCV valve hooked up right, and he didnt even say anything. I also passed with a 90-91 obd-0 b18a1 exhaust manifold that places the o2 sensor way up by the head, instead of down by the cat. They let that slide, since I was still using an OEM manifold and a 4-wire oxygen sensor. It all depends on the ref. You should talk to your ref to see what they require, as there are just "guidelines" that they are supposed to follow, but for sure the motor has to be wired up like a USDM motor, running a USDM ecu. Other than that, there are minor differences that change between ref's.