BFGoodrich Gforce T/A KDW
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BFGoodrich Gforce T/A KDW
I did search, but came up with nothing, wierd. Anyway anyone running these tires?
Looking at the 205/50ZR/15
Car they will be going on is an EG8 with 15X7 wheels
Interested in how they handle in dry and wet weather for Daily use\RR\autoX.
Thanks.
Looking at the 205/50ZR/15
Car they will be going on is an EG8 with 15X7 wheels
Interested in how they handle in dry and wet weather for Daily use\RR\autoX.
Thanks.
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Re: BFGoodrich Gforce T/A KDW (4door_demon)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4door_demon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did search, but came up with nothing, wierd. Anyway anyone running these tires?
Looking at the 205/50ZR/15</TD></TR></TABLE>
The g-Force T/A KDW doesn't come in any 15" sizes. Perhaps you mean the g-Force T/A KDW2? If so, they're a bit pricey. They're supposed to be "bang for the buck" tires (budget performance tires) but they're more expensive than similar performing tires (Kumho Ecsta SPT, Yokohama ES100, Dunlop Direzza DZ101), and there are other tires for about the same money that perform better (Goodyear F1 GS-D3, Kumho Ecsta MX).
Looking at the 205/50ZR/15</TD></TR></TABLE>
The g-Force T/A KDW doesn't come in any 15" sizes. Perhaps you mean the g-Force T/A KDW2? If so, they're a bit pricey. They're supposed to be "bang for the buck" tires (budget performance tires) but they're more expensive than similar performing tires (Kumho Ecsta SPT, Yokohama ES100, Dunlop Direzza DZ101), and there are other tires for about the same money that perform better (Goodyear F1 GS-D3, Kumho Ecsta MX).
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Re: BFGoodrich Gforce T/A KDW (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The g-Force T/A KDW doesn't come in any 15" sizes. Perhaps you mean the g-Force T/A KDW2? If so, they're a bit pricey. They're supposed to be "bang for the buck" tires (budget performance tires) but they're more expensive than similar performing tires (Kumho Ecsta SPT, Yokohama ES100, Dunlop Direzza DZ101), and there are other tires for about the same money that perform better (Goodyear F1 GS-D3, Kumho Ecsta MX).
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They are listed on BFs site under KDW, maybe I missed the 2 somewhere. How are these other options as far as wet handling? Just as good? better? Money is not an issue for me when it comes to good tires.
Thanks.
The g-Force T/A KDW doesn't come in any 15" sizes. Perhaps you mean the g-Force T/A KDW2? If so, they're a bit pricey. They're supposed to be "bang for the buck" tires (budget performance tires) but they're more expensive than similar performing tires (Kumho Ecsta SPT, Yokohama ES100, Dunlop Direzza DZ101), and there are other tires for about the same money that perform better (Goodyear F1 GS-D3, Kumho Ecsta MX).
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They are listed on BFs site under KDW, maybe I missed the 2 somewhere. How are these other options as far as wet handling? Just as good? better? Money is not an issue for me when it comes to good tires.
Thanks.
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Re: BFGoodrich Gforce T/A KDW (4door_demon)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4door_demon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are listed on BFs site under KDW, maybe I missed the 2 somewhere.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think I know where the discrepancy lies. There appears to be a difference between the labeling on the BFG website and on the Tire Rack website. BFG only refers to the g-Force T/A KDW, but shows the various sizes as available in the "new tread" (NT) or "traditional tread" (TT). The Tire Rack refers to two different BFG models, the g-Force T/A KDW and the g-Force T/A KDW 2. It appears that BFG's "new tread" KDW is the same thing as Tire Rack's KDW 2, and BFG's "traditional tread" KDW is what Tire Rack calls the KDW. Sorry for the confusion, but I'm pretty sure that's what's going on. Maybe Clay@TireRack can confirm for us.
Modified by nsxtasy at 5:28 PM 8/30/2005
I think I know where the discrepancy lies. There appears to be a difference between the labeling on the BFG website and on the Tire Rack website. BFG only refers to the g-Force T/A KDW, but shows the various sizes as available in the "new tread" (NT) or "traditional tread" (TT). The Tire Rack refers to two different BFG models, the g-Force T/A KDW and the g-Force T/A KDW 2. It appears that BFG's "new tread" KDW is the same thing as Tire Rack's KDW 2, and BFG's "traditional tread" KDW is what Tire Rack calls the KDW. Sorry for the confusion, but I'm pretty sure that's what's going on. Maybe Clay@TireRack can confirm for us.
Modified by nsxtasy at 5:28 PM 8/30/2005
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Re: BFGoodrich Gforce T/A KDW (4door_demon)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4door_demon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How are these other options as far as wet handling? Just as good? better? Money is not an issue for me when it comes to good tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>
All of the tires mentioned above are budget performance, "bang for the buck" tires that offer decent performance at a bargain price. However, if you're willing to spend a little bit more for better performance - which it sounds like you do, and is a good idea if you're also going to use them for road course and autocross events - here is what I would suggest.
First, I would suggest using 195/50-15 tires rather than 205/50-15. The 195 is a better match in outer diameter to your stock 175/70-13 tires, so you won't be dealing with speedometer and odometer error. Also, any alleged handling advantages of the 205 would probably be negated by the acceleration disadvantages due to its larger diameter and taller effective gearing. (Let me know if you'd like me to explain further.) And most 195/50-15 tires can be mounted on 15x7 rims.
If I wanted to get a 195/50-15 tire for use in daily driving as well as HPDE/autocross events, and I were willing to spend a little more for better performance, my number one choice would be the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 for $89/tire at the Tire Rack. It's Goodyear's top-of-the-line street tire and it is outstanding. It beat the much-lauded Bridgestone S-03 ($118 in that size) in side-by-side testing on the Tire Rack website. This is one of the very best street tires on the road today.
If I wanted to get the 205/50-15 size for the same usage and priorities, I would get the Bridgestone S-03 for $138, or if I wanted to spend less, I would get the Kumho Ecsta MX, which is not quite as good as the S-03 but it's only $97/tire. (The Goodyear F1 GS-D3 isn't available in that size.)
But, based on everything you've said, I would recommend the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 in 195/50-15.
All of the tires mentioned above are budget performance, "bang for the buck" tires that offer decent performance at a bargain price. However, if you're willing to spend a little bit more for better performance - which it sounds like you do, and is a good idea if you're also going to use them for road course and autocross events - here is what I would suggest.
First, I would suggest using 195/50-15 tires rather than 205/50-15. The 195 is a better match in outer diameter to your stock 175/70-13 tires, so you won't be dealing with speedometer and odometer error. Also, any alleged handling advantages of the 205 would probably be negated by the acceleration disadvantages due to its larger diameter and taller effective gearing. (Let me know if you'd like me to explain further.) And most 195/50-15 tires can be mounted on 15x7 rims.
If I wanted to get a 195/50-15 tire for use in daily driving as well as HPDE/autocross events, and I were willing to spend a little more for better performance, my number one choice would be the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 for $89/tire at the Tire Rack. It's Goodyear's top-of-the-line street tire and it is outstanding. It beat the much-lauded Bridgestone S-03 ($118 in that size) in side-by-side testing on the Tire Rack website. This is one of the very best street tires on the road today.
If I wanted to get the 205/50-15 size for the same usage and priorities, I would get the Bridgestone S-03 for $138, or if I wanted to spend less, I would get the Kumho Ecsta MX, which is not quite as good as the S-03 but it's only $97/tire. (The Goodyear F1 GS-D3 isn't available in that size.)
But, based on everything you've said, I would recommend the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 in 195/50-15.
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Re: BFGoodrich Gforce T/A KDW (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
All of the tires mentioned above are budget performance, "bang for the buck" tires that offer decent performance at a bargain price. However, if you're willing to spend a little bit more for better performance - which it sounds like you do, and is a good idea if you're also going to use them for road course and autocross events - here is what I would suggest.
First, I would suggest using 195/50-15 tires rather than 205/50-15. The 195 is a better match in outer diameter to your stock 175/70-13 tires, so you won't be dealing with speedometer and odometer error. Also, any alleged handling advantages of the 205 would probably be negated by the acceleration disadvantages due to its larger diameter and taller effective gearing. (Let me know if you'd like me to explain further.) And most 195/50-15 tires can be mounted on 15x7 rims.
If I wanted to get a 195/50-15 tire for use in daily driving as well as HPDE/autocross events, and I were willing to spend a little more for better performance, my number one choice would be the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 for $89/tire at the Tire Rack. It's Goodyear's top-of-the-line street tire and it is outstanding. It beat the much-lauded Bridgestone S-03 ($118 in that size) in side-by-side testing on the Tire Rack website. This is one of the very best street tires on the road today.
If I wanted to get the 205/50-15 size for the same usage and priorities, I would get the Bridgestone S-03 for $138, or if I wanted to spend less, I would get the Kumho Ecsta MX, which is not quite as good as the S-03 but it's only $97/tire. (The Goodyear F1 GS-D3 isn't available in that size.)
But, based on everything you've said, I would recommend the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 in 195/50-15.
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Sounds good, I will look into those goodyears. Thanks for the input.
All of the tires mentioned above are budget performance, "bang for the buck" tires that offer decent performance at a bargain price. However, if you're willing to spend a little bit more for better performance - which it sounds like you do, and is a good idea if you're also going to use them for road course and autocross events - here is what I would suggest.
First, I would suggest using 195/50-15 tires rather than 205/50-15. The 195 is a better match in outer diameter to your stock 175/70-13 tires, so you won't be dealing with speedometer and odometer error. Also, any alleged handling advantages of the 205 would probably be negated by the acceleration disadvantages due to its larger diameter and taller effective gearing. (Let me know if you'd like me to explain further.) And most 195/50-15 tires can be mounted on 15x7 rims.
If I wanted to get a 195/50-15 tire for use in daily driving as well as HPDE/autocross events, and I were willing to spend a little more for better performance, my number one choice would be the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 for $89/tire at the Tire Rack. It's Goodyear's top-of-the-line street tire and it is outstanding. It beat the much-lauded Bridgestone S-03 ($118 in that size) in side-by-side testing on the Tire Rack website. This is one of the very best street tires on the road today.
If I wanted to get the 205/50-15 size for the same usage and priorities, I would get the Bridgestone S-03 for $138, or if I wanted to spend less, I would get the Kumho Ecsta MX, which is not quite as good as the S-03 but it's only $97/tire. (The Goodyear F1 GS-D3 isn't available in that size.)
But, based on everything you've said, I would recommend the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 in 195/50-15.
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Sounds good, I will look into those goodyears. Thanks for the input.
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Re: BFGoodrich Gforce T/A KDW (4door_demon)
Yes, what we call the KDW2 is the same as the KDW new tread design. It is a much sportier looking tread than the original. I agree with the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS D3 recommendation. You will love the tire for both handling and wet traction. The bonus is that it is also fairly quiet riding for the performance level.
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