Hey guys and gals, I really need new tires soon, but unfortunately all my cars need something which puts me in a tight situation.

If you want to know something funny, the last set of tires I actually fished out of the garbage from a local tire shop, Michelin XGT4 195/55/15 (stock Civic si tires).

Grip was garbage for the most part, but surprisingly responsive turn-in and very compliant over bumps. In addition, they were relatively light, which made the car feel more nimble compared to the heavier 205/50/15 I had before.

Has anyone tried the Fuzions? I know they are entry level Bridgestones. They seem cheap and others like them, but I don't want to put any kind of junk on my ITR.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ericlee303 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys and gals, I really need new tires soon, but unfortunately all my cars need something which puts me in a tight situation.

If you want to know something funny, the last set of tires I actually fished out of the garbage from a local tire shop, Michelin XGT4 195/55/15 (stock Civic si tires).

Grip was garbage for the most part, but surprisingly responsive turn-in and very compliant over bumps. In addition, they were relatively light, which made the car feel more nimble compared to the heavier 205/50/15 I had before.

Has anyone tried the Fuzions? I know they are entry level Bridgestones. They seem cheap and others like them, but I don't want to put any kind of junk on my ITR.

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These two statements dont go well together.

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

Let me rephrase:

I no longer want junk on my ITR.

 

What do you do with your ITR? I rock Falken Azenis and like them, however they're not very good in the rain.

 

Just spirited daily driving for now. No tracking or dragging.

I've read several reviews and they all seem to be positive. However, I don't personally know anyone that has tried these yet.

Thanks again, any feedback would be appreciated. Like I said, these tires are low-priced, about $100CDN for a 205/50/15.

 

I have the 205/50/15 Fuzions on my ITR now for daily driving. There OK for the $. They seem to last but I don't torture them much. I have noticed they aren't near as sticky as the RE01 I had on last or the S03 I use for fun, but they are 2-3 times as expensive. If I needed another set I would probably get another Fuzion for daily and S03 for fun.

 

for just basic DD why not try the Khumo ASX? It's the 712 replacement & I am really liking them so far....I don't have an R, but it's a good all season tire IMO.

 

Thanks alot guys, this is good info, whether you have an R or not!

 

I have personally tried the Fuzions in 205-45-16. I can say that for the price I paid (~CAD$540 installed/balanced), they are the best bang for the buck. They do well in both dry and wet. On dry, I have managed to pull a 1.06G on a 270 degrees highway onramp with TEIN HA and various stiffening bars. On wet, I don't feel any hydroplaning on 4-5 inches of water until I hit pass 130km/h. When mine wears out, I will definitely get them again.

 

why does the corrolla have slipstreams?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Project X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have personally tried the Fuzions in 205-45-16. I can say that for the price I paid (~CAD$540 installed/balanced), they are the best bang for the buck. They do well in both dry and wet. On dry, I have managed to pull a 1.06G on a 270 degrees highway onramp with TEIN HA and various stiffening bars. On wet, I don't feel any hydroplaning on 4-5 inches of water until I hit pass 130km/h. When mine wears out, I will definitely get them again.


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How did you obtain that number. Also if your into setting records wouldnt you want a good tire under you instead of the best bang for the buck?

 

I have fuzions on my M3 now. I reason I bought them is for good all weather performance, long life, and decent performance.

The performance is decent, the rain performance is great, and they don't seems to be wearing at all.

 

There are a number of very good "bang for the buck" tires these days, tires that offer good performance at a great price, last a pretty long time, and do well on wet pavement, too. The Yokohama ES100 has been the leader in this segment for the past few years, but new entries include the Fuzion ZRi, the Kumho Ecsta SPT, and the Dunlop Direzza DZ101. All but the Dunlop come in the stock ITR size of 195/55-15. All but the Dunlop have done well in Tire Rack side-by-side comparison tests. (The Dunlop doesn't come in a size for their test vehicle.) All are priced very attractively at the Tire Rack (roughly USD60 per tire). Some of these tires are a lot more expensive in Canada than in the States (but the Tire Rack does ship to Canada if you need it).

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The Kumho Ecsta ASX is an all-season tire - a good tire if you plan on using your tires on snow and ice and in frigid cold, but nowhere near as good as these other tires in warmer weather.

The Kumho Ecsta ASX is not the 712 replacement. The Kumho Ecsta 712 is a "bang for the buck" summer tire, not an all-season tire, and not as good as the Yoko ES100. Which is why Kumho is replacing the 712 with the Kumho Ecsta SPT, not the ASX.

 

2 of my buds got some a few months after they came out. really good deal. from the same shop one paid 320, and the other paid right at 290 for 4 tires installed.
but those were 205/40/17 i think, or something close to that.

i thought that was really cheap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ericlee303 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys and gals, I really need new tires soon, but unfortunately all my cars need something which puts me in a tight situation.

If you want to know something funny, the last set of tires I actually fished out of the garbage from a local tire shop, Michelin XGT4 195/55/15 (stock Civic si tires).

Grip was garbage for the most part, but surprisingly responsive turn-in and very compliant over bumps. In addition, they were relatively light, which made the car feel more nimble compared to the heavier 205/50/15 I had before.

Has anyone tried the Fuzions? I know they are entry level Bridgestones. They seem cheap and others like them, but I don't want to put any kind of junk on my ITR.

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I had some Cooper Zeon X2S (related to the fuzions) on my stock ITR wheels. They were not a bad tire for the money, and I would buy another set if need....Road noise wasn't droning, Hydroplaining didn't really occur until 75-80 (shouldn't be going faster than that in the rain anyways) so overall a good tire for daily driving, and I even ran them on the second day at EXPO...

 

I've tried them and have liked them on the street.... that's it. It's a very cheap tire but is quite sticky. They totally blow if you want to track your R or Auto X it, they tend to get kinda greasy

 

Thanks alot guys, http://www.tiretrends.ca has 205/50/15 shipped for $470CDN. If you know of a cash deal place to install your tires, you can have these installed for a touch over $500.

Thanks again for the great feedback guys!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Kumho Ecsta ASX is an all-season tire - a good tire if you plan on using your tires on snow and ice and in frigid cold, but nowhere near as good as these other tires in warmer weather.

The Kumho Ecsta ASX is not the 712 replacement. The Kumho Ecsta 712 is a "bang for the buck" summer tire, not an all-season tire, and not as good as the Yoko ES100. Which is why Kumho is replacing the 712 with the Kumho Ecsta SPT, not the ASX.
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Not to nit pick, but the ASX is in Kumho's Ultra High Performance category. The SPT does appear to get slightly better marks, but the ASX is a relatively competitive tire is it not? I'm sure that you know tires better than me, but the specs of it seem to be pretty good. Here in TX we deal w/ primarily warm/hot weather, and the tires seem to fair very well in spirited driving. I will probably never reach the limits of the tire since my car is a street car, but for a DD w/ some fun intentions it seems like a good deal.

Please tell me if I am way off the mark.

http://kumhousa.com/Products/P...tID=1

 

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I think you can do a LOT better at the Tire Rack.

470 Canadian dollars = 392 U.S. dollars.

You can get a set of four Fuzion ZRi tires in 205/50-15 from the Tire Rack for 244 U.S. dollars. Even with shipping and any duties, I bet it's going to come out cheaper...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DJ_SaNdOz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to nit pick, but the ASX is in Kumho's Ultra High Performance category. The SPT does appear to get slightly better marks, but the ASX is a relatively competitive tire is it not? I'm sure that you know tires better than me, but the specs of it seem to be pretty good. Here in TX we deal w/ primarily warm/hot weather, and the tires seem to fair very well in spirited driving. I will probably never reach the limits of the tire since my car is a street car, but for a DD w/ some fun intentions it seems like a good deal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

All-season tires like the ASX are designed to be compromise tires - they're okay on snow and ice and in frigid cold, but not as good as pure winter tires, and they're okay in warmer weather, but not as good as summer tires like the Ecsta SPT (let alone the top-of-the-line Ecsta MX). All-season tires are designed for someone who needs to use the same tires in all weather conditions. They also tend to have long treadlife.

Summer tires are designed to perform well in a narrower range of operating temperatures and conditions. Because their tread and compound don't have to be grippy on snow or flexible in frigid temperatures, the tire designers can optimize their warm-weather performance.

That's not to say that the ASX is going to be terrible in warmer weather, but rather, that the SPT is simply going to perform better, except in winter conditions.

Here's what the Tire Rack says about performance all-season tires (and the bolding is theirs):

You're willing to trade a little handling for all-season versatility.

• Branded with M+S symbol, year-round traction even in light snow
• V, Z or W-speed rated
• 55 series and lower

These tires provide light snow traction through tread designs and compounds which remain more flexible in the cold weather to help blend all-season traction with very good handling and high speed capabilities.

 

Thanks nsxtasy, I'll look in to Tire Rack. I just thought they would tax the crap out of them coming across.

 

Thank you sir. I appreciate the info.

 

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How did you obtain that number. Also if your into setting records wouldnt you want a good tire under you instead of the best bang for the buck?</TD></TR></TABLE>

By using my RSM-GP w/ G-sensor.


Yes, I want a good tire WITH best bang for the buck.

 

fuzions and g009's are the same exact ruber compund but fuzions have less sidewall flex, id pay the extra cash for em....