I am looking to get a bypass valve for my CAI before rainy season comes. Is there any difference in the companies that make them? in other words, an AEM bypass valve verses a cheap one off ebay. I bought an ebay CAI so is there any reason an AEM wouldnt work with my system? Or could i just buy a cheap one?

 

If it fits the tubing supplied with the "ckoke" (sorry, cheap shot) EBay CAI, by all means mount the AEM unit. I'm more comfortable with this combo than the other way around.
You curtainly don't want the system sucking up a colume of H2O; it does wonders to your connecting rods when the engine goes hydrolock on you.

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so let me get something straight...
Alright so my ebay CAI was a 2 piece tubing. would i just put the vavle between where the 2 tubes meet?

 

U got it correct. Ideally, the bypass valve sits above the high water mark and is ment to open when it senses a vacume caused by water injestion. It's important to remember that the bypassed air in not filtered, so if you should suspect that you did a "submarine", just check it afterwards that it closed.

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After reading alot of reviews, many people said its a waste of time. I live in california, so yes it rains but its not really "swamp" weather. Ive heard hydrolocking is only a problem when the filter is 100% submerged in water. I dont think Ive ever driven through that much water in my life. If i DIDNT get the valve, would i have to worry about little splashes from a wet road, or even a small little puddle? Lets just say i dont want to get this if i dont have to, and im just trying to get other peoples opinions.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Alibi86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After reading alot of reviews, many people said its a waste of time. I live in california, so yes it rains but its not really "swamp" weather. Ive heard hydrolocking is only a problem when the filter is 100% submerged in water. I dont think Ive ever driven through that much water in my life. If i DIDNT get the valve, would i have to worry about little splashes from a wet road, or even a small little puddle? Lets just say i dont want to get this if i dont have to, and im just trying to get other peoples opinions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i bought one, and installed it myself...now i kinda regret it...mainly because ive never encountered a time where it saved my motor, and it made the intake growl at high rpm vtec crossover go away

 

Fair enough. If you really live in "Sunny California" and never have to deal with what Homestead, Fl has gone thru of late (two feet of standing water on US1 for two days) then by all means. You won't need it.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P_Adams &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fair enough. If you really live in "Sunny California" and never have to deal with what Homestead, Fl has gone thru of late (two feet of standing water on US1 for two days) then by all means. You won't need it.

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personally, i got it because A.) I was a ******* ***** that was afraid to destroy my car and B.) because i thought i might have issues in deep snow or whatever....the water needs to be soo deep for snything to happen (2 feet)...and anyone who tries to drive through that in anything but a hummer is retarded

 

Yes, and we see them almost every day of the year. (and it ain't Hummers that I'm talking about) pushing thru water splashing over the hood.
I'll never think of you (or anyone else) as a "wooss" or a "p....y" because you wanted to protect your investment. Think of it as a purchase that didn't work out, and you're not going to do THAT again.

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But rather than learn from my own mistakes Id rather learn from other peoples mistakes. Its cheaper. Im not cheap to the point where it hink its too expensive, but like i said, if i dont have to get it, i wont. At this point i think im going to hold off on this little piece of rubber.

 

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My friend got a cold air intake and swamped his BMW 3 series. He was an idiot for driving it into a puddle, and he was an idiot for putting an intake so low without protecting it, but it CAN happen.

I've seen it, it's not a myth. With a cold air, the intake piping can sit as low as 5 inches depending on the car and if it's lowered.

 

i have an accord, so where my intake goes down is below the car but is protected by wut i think is the wheel well lining or something. i dont know. just a big *** plastic thing. If i get under the car i cant get to the filter without taking this thing off . But being in california i dont think ill ever see a puddle that deep.

 

Yea all you have to do is be careful and you're good. Dont do something stupid and it shouldnt be a problem, but that means dont go in ANY larger puddles. Youd be surprised how deep one gets.

 

i guess you could say it rains alot here, but for the most part the gutters and drains do their jobs. Not too many big puddles. Maybe what ill do is see if i can take the bottom pipe of my intake off and short ram it in the winter. That is, f my filter fits in that narrow spot.

 

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That's what i'd do, most intake pipes are convertible since they're 2 pieces anyway

 

where the 2 pipes connect, i dont know if there is enough room for my filter to fit...Do you think i could find a more narrow filter than the K&N i have?

 

I bought my CAI and SRI from ebay and was somewhat happy (97 Accord EX 5 sp) However I had to completely remove the CAI to install the Short Ram because there was just enough difference in size the filter wouldn't fit on the top tube of the cold air. What a PITA. But in NM it doesn't rain much but the flip side is they have 1925 sewage concept so it is not uncommon when it rains to see 2' plus water on the road. Yes that is 2 feet. Talk about ghetto *** ****.
Especially for lowered hondas.

 

just to clear thing up..


in therory, it take quite alot of water to hydrolock a motor(meaing the motor is completely seized)

but it doesnt take much water(a good sized pubble that you cannot see, and didnt dodge) to suck in water, yeah, your motor is not seized, but your motor would be very likely to lose compression due to various damage such as a bent valve.

water=non-compressable

get an AEM valve just for the peace of mind.

 

Any quantity of water greater than the combustion chamber volume will cause damage. This can be as litle as 80cc. A two liter engine pumps 20+ times that for every revolution. But then again, you'll bend a rod before that happens.

 

I think Im just going to convert my CAI to a short ram for the rainy season. That way i can keep my sound and i still wont have to worry about water.

 

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