i might be an idiot but i need to know how to advance ignition timing

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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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Default i might be an idiot but i need to know how to advance ignition timing

i read a few articles on it and i was under the impression that all i needed to do was clock to dizzy back and tighten it back up but last night my buddies were talking about some clip on the drivers side in the engine bay and how something had to be done to that for the advance timing to work properly... i have a '91 std hatch with a d16z6 and a rywire harness... what clip are they talking about and what do i need to do to it? thanks a lot
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 02:41 AM
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only worry bout that if youre settin the timing dead on. if youre just tryin to take a shot in the dark at it, then when you turn off the engine and then restart it the ecu will reset the map.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 02:45 AM
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When setting ignition advance properly, there is a small plug either on the fender rail of the driver side, in the passenger footwell or wherever your custom harness relocates it too.
The two terminals on this plug need to bridged. This prevents the ecu from doing any timing adjustment while you tinker with the ignition timing. Then you use a timing light: read, adjust, read until its where you want it.
Remove bridge.
Test car, listen for any detonation.

Sure you could just **** on the dizzy and hope its right but that's really a ghetto way to do it. Like throwing darts blindfolded.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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alright thanks a lot guys... i know that theres a small blue plug just under the dash on the passengers side so im going to try that... right now im just doing it the ghetto way until i can get a hold of timing light... once again thanks for the info guys
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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I wouldn't even call that the ghetto way. I would call that the special ed/window licker way. I don't know what kind of ghetto's you guys have out there in Ohio, but I'm starting to think this word is a bit mis-over used. Throwing darts in the dark? I think it's more like taking a romp with a Tijuana ***** without wearing a helmet. If you don't have the tools for the job, you're going to regret it later.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> if youre just tryin to take a shot in the dark at it</TD></TR></TABLE>
"then don't even bother" is how this sentence should end. You're going to **** it up. I guarantee you, you cannot benefit your engine by attempting this without a timing light. You know what happens when you're timing is too advanced? Other than pinging which chips away at your combustion chamber walls, you ignite the mixture too soon so that the pistons have to fight against it as they're coming up, equalling a loss in power. Your combustion temperatures are going to soar to ridiculous heights.

Buy the $15 repair manual, a cheap timing light, and do it right please. Be sure and mark your current timing on each of the three distributor mounts so you can put it back after you inevitably **** it up.

There are four marks on the crank pulley. Three are together, and the TDC mark is farther away. The mark sandwiched between the other two is the correct timing mark. The mark closer to the TDC mark is 2 degrees retarded. The mark furthest away from the TDC mark is 2 degrees advanced. You can safely set your timing to this mark and almost always get a benefit in mpg and power. Do not advance beyond this mark without a dyno.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suspendedHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldn't even call that the ghetto way. I would call that the special ed/window licker way. I don't know what kind of ghetto's you guys have out there in Ohio, but I'm starting to think this word is a bit mis-over used. Throwing darts in the dark? I think it's more like taking a romp with a Tijuana ***** without wearing a helmet. If you don't have the tools for the job, you're going to regret it later.


"then don't even bother" is how this sentence should end. You're going to **** it up. I guarantee you, you cannot benefit your engine by attempting this without a timing light. You know what happens when you're timing is too advanced? Other than pinging which chips away at your combustion chamber walls, you ignite the mixture too soon so that the pistons have to fight against it as they're coming up, equalling a loss in power. Your combustion temperatures are going to soar to ridiculous heights.

Buy the $15 repair manual, a cheap timing light, and do it right please. Be sure and mark your current timing on each of the three distributor mounts so you can put it back after you inevitably **** it up.

There are four marks on the crank pulley. Three are together, and the TDC mark is farther away. The mark sandwiched between the other two is the correct timing mark. The mark closer to the TDC mark is 2 degrees retarded. The mark furthest away from the TDC mark is 2 degrees advanced. You can safely set your timing to this mark and almost always get a benefit in mpg and power. Do not advance beyond this mark without a dyno.</TD></TR></TABLE>

alright i think ill take your advice and wait until i have all the right tools ... i just get a little bit ahead of myself when it comes to messing with my engine... but just so that all you guys know when i bought the car the distributor looked as thought the timing had been advanced all the way(rotated towards the firewall completly) and i have left it that way for over a month without any problems... there are no audible sounds of detonation and the car has ran fine... i just wanted to see where the timing was and if i could improve my mpg, throttle response and power at all... thanks for all the help guys
-Josh
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