Few B Series Things to use, gotta be sure about them interchaging.

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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Well i sold my ole b18 the other day "longblock only!", well anyways thought i would ask if i can use this stuff i took off the b18 and use it on the b16 i get. I have b18 Starter, B18 Alternator, B18 clutch/FLYwheel/Pressure plate, B18 intermediate shaft, b18 axels, b18 Hcp mounts, b18 shift linkage that came with the Crx. Most of this stuff should swap over im thinkin, or hope, I just want everyones Opinion if it will interchage for sure or anything i should know first, that way i will be assured that it should be ok. BTW what is the tool i use to align up the clutch in the pressure plate threw it on the inner crank side to they are matched for the input shaft to go in straight without bangin into them harsh.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Im some what new to B series stuff, i know more about D series to be honest.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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You can not reuse the clutch.

You can reuse the flywheel, axles, intermediate shaft, alt., shift linkage, and mounts.

I'm not to sure about the pressure plate, or the starter.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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Dude why can't i use the clutch?, it's a act 1 i think the guy told me when i bought it from him. It seems used though.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Forgot to mention the starter fitting should be okay i would think, but i don't see why it wouldn't anyways. The clutch and the pressure plate should be the same right?, they are still in decent condition to reuse.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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as long as everything was from a b18a. you can reuse all of it.

you need a clutch alignment tool
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Thats what i thought, i should still be able to stick back on the clutch and flywheel with pressure plate right?, i mean they are used but still fine condition. Plus whats the alignment tool called?, i found out recently im gonn need that to line up the clutch.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 02:21 AM
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it depends on what tranny you're going to use with your b16. i know that almost any b-series tranny can fit but if you're going for JDM S1 cable type(90-91) or Y1/YS1(92-93). S1 splines are different from Y1/YS1 splines so definetely your disk and p plate will not fit for both, it'll be one of them ONLY.

what model's your B18 btw?
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tdocrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as long as everything was from a b18a. you can reuse all of it.

you need a clutch alignment tool</TD></TR></TABLE>

90-91 B18a trannies use the small input shaft which is the same as the JDM B16. So the clutch disc is interchangable between the 90-91 B18a and the B16 tranny. Everything else should fit fine.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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See thats what i keep thinkin, as long as everything will fit fine you know, i don't wanna have to take it back apart if something isn't working right you know. But anyways the tranny i have IS a Ys1, and it was on the ole b18 i had before i sold it that i took off, with the clutch/pressure plate/flywheel, so obviously if they fit on they're they should fit on the b16 i would think?.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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See i got 2 differen't peoples view on it now, lol...or 3 anyways. If i BUY a new clutch kit with pressure plate and flywheel, which should i buy?, the 99 civic si b16a?, im not totally sure really. Also all i have seen lately are alot of Exedy knock offs on ebay, pfft....
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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simply put, whether or not the clutch will fit depends on the years of the transmissions you're talking about because the input shaft got bigger between 91-92. The flywheel should be good on either, I believe, and it seems to me the pressure plate would be good as well, but I can't guarantee that. As far as I know, the only possible difference is in the input shaft, which would only effect the clutch disk, and probably the throw out bearing.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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So how am i suppose to know which clutch kit to buy for my YS1 Transmission?, it might be a 92/93 i guess, im not sure though. I also don't even know if it's a US ys1 tranny or a Jdm ys1 tranny.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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Ok if nobody knows, then maybe someone can tell me what b16a clutch kit to buy that will have the highest %chance to fit more likely then another?.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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no it wont fit, when i got my clutch on my b16, the guy said itsnot just a b18 clutch, you have to mix and match parts.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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take some calipers and measure the diameter of the input shaft and/or count the splines and do a quick google search for b series tranny specs.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Why does everything on this site have to be so hard?

take the clutch disc and see if it fits your transmission input shaft.

if its too loose, then no.

If it fits, then yes.


89-91 transmission input shaft is smaller than the 92+. 92+ is the same size as a hydro trans.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Uh i said it was a Ys1, now i thought those were only 92-93?, or am i lost...
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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maybe I'm confused.

You have the trans, right?

You have the clutch, right?

If you walk the one piece over to the other piece you'll be able to tell if they fit together.

If you are buying a clutch for it and don't know what year you have, then go to Advance or PepBoys with your trans in your trunk. See which one they have in stock. Take it out to your car and see if it fits. If it doesn't return it and get the other year. If you want something better than a PepBoys clutch, once you figure out the year you need, return it for your money back and order the other from where ever you were getting the hi-perf one from.

I run a used OEM clutch in my CRX-B18C1.

Unless you are adding boost or nitrous you don't need a race clutch. A race clutch won't add any power, or last any longer, it'll just cost more. I/E/H isn't adding enough power to warrent a "race" clutch.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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Yeah thats true, i don't even really need a act 1 clutch for a stock b16, but thats a good idea mang, i'll try that. But what i was tryin to get at before is i wanted to keep my Ys1 tranny off my b18b, so i kept the flywheel, pressure plate, and clutch off it with tranny too. So anyways if the Ys1 cable tranny i got doesn't fit the b16 im getting, then most likely i don't see why it would matter getting another clutch kit.
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Ok, maybe I didn't understand your question entirely.

Any B16, B18A, B18B, B18C (GSR or Hype R), B20B, B20Z engine (JDM OR otherwise) will bolt to any B16, B18A, B18B, B18C, B20B, B20Z transmission.

The only difference is the size of the clutch disc input shaft hole and the input shaft.
Once you know what year your trans is 90+91 or 92 and up you can run anything as long as the cluch disc matches.

The pressure plates are the same bolt pattern.
The flywheels are the same pattern.
The bellhousings are the same pattern.

So if you saved your clutch disc and transmission from your B18, you can bolt that to any of the above engines and it will fit.

If you have the correct disc for your trans in hand, take it to the parts counter and ask them to match it up to a 90+91 or to a 92+ disc.

I used to work a parts counter, trust me, nothing gets "us" angrier than when people don't know what they have but expect me to get them the correct parts. When people brought their **** in (cleaner the better), I could match it up with what I had in stock to make sure they got the right part. If you know you aren't going to buy it from them, that you are going to mail order it, give the guy $5 for his time. Do it at some weird hour when the store is empty. Make it clear to him that you intend to mail order it but you have 5 bux for his time. I got paid on commission, so no sale = agrivated.

Hope this made sense this time.
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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I had a a gsr ys1...and they said a nomral B series tranny casing would not fit the stock one....and i asked b/c of the two piece housing and they said, "it just won't fit" If what you say is true then that's fucken shady of the tranny shops here. It doesn't matter all i know is...that i went to buy the pilot bearings and clutch plate and all that jazz, from autozone...thinking the del sol b16a would be as close as possible....and nothing fit right...ended up using the same clutch disc that came on the tranny in the package
---To the poster
No worries. Most of the stuff will trasnferr over...The headflow and all that stuff from the b18 won't trasnfer over...but the c5 stuff transferrs better to the b16 then the b18 stuff. have fun...
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 05:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Burlyirishdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a a gsr ys1...and they said a nomral B series tranny casing would not fit the stock one....and i asked b/c of the two piece housing and they said, "it just won't fit" If what you say is true then that's fucken shady of the tranny shops here. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, it is extremely hard to make everyone understand.

The transmissions bolt to the engine in the exact same way but the cases are different.
90-91 is one case, small input shaft cable trans, 92-93 is another case, big input shaft cable trans and 94+ is another case big input shaft hydro trans.

cable trans = cable opperated clutch
hydro trans = hydraulically opperated clutch
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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my .02 = if you're gonna have to out the clutch back on, why not save up and buy a new one. I think it will be more appreciated for the long run.
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