I just want to know if the car made a fullpass yet ?

 

I think he's gone 9.4 or so at 17psi. Trying to get the suspension dialed in, it's shaking the tires alot right now.

 

why do u think it would be doing that?

 

There's alot going on in the front of that car. Clutch, tire pressures, shock settings, 4 link settings, wheelie bar height, etc. All these can affect how the car launches and drives under power. Just gonna take some track time.

 

would it be possible to have too big of a tire on a fwd application?

 

I don't think so. It's just a matter of getting the clutch, suspension, and power right. There are alot of things that have to be right to make a big tire work. With a small tire you can really get away with alot.

 

good luck too chris it would be nice to see him out making some full passes he has had about as much patience with that car as anyone could!

 

is he runing this weekend?????

 

I heard it was shaking so bad that it was hard for him to see.

 

Not running this week at Moroso...will be at atco

 

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The bigger the better! (As long as he can see over the front tires now.)
If he's getting shake, then the crewchief needs to add some power to the car to keep the wheel speed up, or take some more clutch out to let the motor keep revving. There's a lot more to it than just that, but it sucks to try and find a tuneup for 15 psi boost, and then try and run full power. Everything changes. I say they should just start tuning for uber power now that they know the car is running good. I know I'd rather be spinning the tires at the hit, instead of getting tire shake. Shake is brutal on a chassis. Maybe Chris should hire a real drag racing guru to help them get the car running better.

 

It's gotta be tough, when one group of people design\build a car...and then, his buddies try to set it up and race it, haha.

I just hope they don't leave the pin in the chute anymore like they did in St. Louis...Would be a shitty reason to die.

 

Hey Tony... What did they decide to do clutch wise?? Tell me, they went with something other than what was originally planned? Something that has been tested and proven..

 

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I also hope that Chris wasn't talked into some crazy clutch idea by Norwood. They are using a traditional RWD tranny like a Lenco or Liberty or Jerico, etc...right?
All they need is a clutch setup similar to what the Pro RWD cars are using. Similar power and power adders are being used, so the clutch tune ups should also be similar.

 

LOL, i guess you called that one Len! From what I understand, Rado is working on getting a real clutch in the car...

And the power is there, it maxed out a dyna pak dyno in Cali.

 

Thank god, he isn't going to be using that abortion Tilton thing that Norwood and Fisch dreamt up on one their opium binges, or what ever psychadelic drugs they use.. I was at Fontana at the end of last year when Fisch was walking around with pics of the clutch and trying to explain to Rob of RPS and Bob of East West Performance *almost every PS car uses his clutch*, how it was going to revolutionize the clutch industry.. When he walked away, they looked at each other and asked if he was serious, and almost pissed their pants.. On a side note.. All the Norwood followers have left, where are all of you Fisch followers?

 

its about to be a bob bash hows the rwd car and do you think bob will show up show up at the raceswith that car???

 

What RWD car?

 

i dount know his name but it rados old rwd car it crash....i think it was a modifed car

 

topletz

 

thanks

 

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Sounds like your usual script john. Making something up and sensationalizing a statement to try and make somebody else look bad... all in an effort to make you look better. Does this ever fool anyone?

I still think there is a chance that that clutch could work with the right "electronic/hydraulic controls". You never know until you try. True, a carbon clutch set up and controlled in the traditional manner won't work consistently... But isn't this sport built on doing and controlling old technologies with new age controls and going faster? ex: Carburetor v. Fuel inj. (still putting fuel in the motor what's different?) Only problem is that Sanctioning bodies want your set-up to control the clutch (mechanical) not your computer to control the clutch (electronic).

One thing is for sure... If you think you can, it might, and if you think you can't, it sure as hell won't. I'd rather think I can, even if I'm wrong, than think I can't and never try anything different. I'm not a clutch expert and never claimed to be... just think there's a possibility it "could" work if controlled electronically.

On a side note... what have you ever built? Only looks like you tear down to me.

 

Hey Fisch.. Thanks for the reply.. I understand when you say "you think it could work." and that is a very good and positive attitude to have. And I guess it makes it even easier to try to make things, that "could work", when you are working with someone elses money. Now not once when I saw pictures of the clutch at Fontana with Rob and Bob, did I ever hear you say, it "could work" with the right electronics. All I heard was, how much better it was going to be than anything out there currently. Ripping someone off to try out things that "could work", is pretty low in my book. From what I know, you guys were contracted to build a racecar, not use someone elses money to fund your experiments for things that "could work". I wonder if a refund was ever offered for some of the things that "didn't work".

Oh, and on your side note. I have never claimed to have built anything. But I have worked on many different types of race vehicles. And ask anyone that knows me. I just claim to be a truck driver. So let me ask you. What have you built that has worked??? Certainly not the vehicle in question...

 

bottom line its not working he needs to get a real clutch in the car if he can get it in the bellhousing

 

Has any racecar from the Norwood camp gone down the 1320 respectably?????????????