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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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I just started this trend because it seems like there is a lot of info on the B-series engines but not that much info on the H-series. so i would like to have a discussion
on differnt setup's like if you un this bore size and this type piston with this type valve what would be the trade off or this crank and that length rod would do such and such and what would be the trade off stuff like that.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Yea and how quickly people blow their shat up with boost on stock internals.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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m running rollerwaves on my H22 and m very happy with them. 89mm bore and cheap sleeves.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea and how quickly people blow their shat up with boost on stock internals. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont understand why so many ppl always think like this. its all about tunning.

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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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H series are good motors. They are starting to become more popular now since the aftermarket industry has started supporting the motor more and more in the past year or so.

As far as combo components, it's not a night and day difference between B series to be honest.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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Embrace your displacement! Take advantage of Honda engineering in the larger package, the larger displacement makes for that much more room to cram large volumes of pressurized air

The H-series engine offers closed deck from the factory, exploit it. Forged pistons with the factory FRM sleeves is a reality and all the details will be released soon. We are a part of an H22 buildup that you will be hearing about in the near future

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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how is timing compared to b-series? do h-series normally run more timing then b-series?
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 04:55 AM
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I have an h22 in a 94 accord. It's fully built and turbocharged but I cant find an aftermarket intake manifold that will fit. I tried the new skunk 2 mani., I even tried the euro h22 mani. Both of them sat right up against the brake booster. So if anyone has achieved an aftermarket mani for an h22 in a 94 accord tell me what you did and also some pics if you can.... Thanks.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 05:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hondaddict &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The H-series engine offers closed deck from the factory, exploit it. Forged pistons with the factory FRM sleeves is a reality and all the details will be released soon. We are a part of an H22 buildup that you will be hearing about in the near future </TD></TR></TABLE>

Any details you want to release now?
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigblockvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">m running rollerwaves on my H22 and m very happy with them. 89mm bore and cheap sleeves. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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There is alot of information available, b/h series are all very similar. Most prelude owners dont know much more than I/H/E... the guys who are usually pushing the limits have usually been in civics or integras and so there is more documented. As far as information, it's out there... hondas are pretty much the same across the board.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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IM realling intrested in the info on the H series, I have a H23 im looking to build for a mild race car set up... Ill be happy to build 500WHP on it... im thinking about stepping up fomr the All Motor class to the turbo class here in Canada. And yes I know 500WHP wont get me the fastest car, but Im hoping ofr a consistant car, which is hard to find here.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hondaddict &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The H-series engine offers closed deck from the factory, exploit it. Forged pistons with the factory FRM sleeves is a reality and all the details will be released soon. We are a part of an H22 buildup that you will be hearing about in the near future

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This must be the infamous Solis build. Sorry to sound like a dick, but we all know about mahle pistons for quite some time now. It's not like rick designed the pistons personally.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This must be the infamous Solis build. Sorry to sound like a dick, but we all know about mahle pistons for quite some time now. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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Is there any one using the GT40 or GT40R turbo? I heard the H series engine produces great power with the GT40. However, I came across atleast 3 versions (Garrett GT4082, GT4088, Precision GT40). I read there was also a GT40R turbo. Anyone have any info which is better for all around performance for street and fully built?
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVtec-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i dont understand why so many ppl always think like this. its all about tunning.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1171997</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well after hearing about ringlands breaking 20 times over people tend to think stuff. I KNOW its about tuning. I said that to see what kind of reaction i got. So thanks for your help.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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the ringlands suck, I know that one-fab isn't the only shop in the world that knows how to tune a stock block h-series
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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One-Fab isnt the only shop that can tune a stock H22A, They were the only shop to push the H22A to this level. Any tuner can do what was done with Matt's car, there is no magic in the tune. However, Matt is a very rare breed of person that has no regard for what most people consider safe for pushing a stock motor. He didnt care if the motor blew, He wanted power and he got it.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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And that's what it takes to find the limits.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hondaddict &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The H-series engine offers closed deck from the factory, exploit it. Forged pistons with the factory FRM sleeves is a reality and all the details will be released soon. We are a part of an H22 buildup that you will be hearing about in the near future

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Let me know how it does after 100,000 miles.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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I dont think there is a single motor making power on honda-tech has lasted 100,000 miles... people have this reliability thing all screwed, if your making power your car will not be reliable, it's pretty much a fact.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And that's what it takes to find the limits. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What sucks is we didnt find the limit.. we found a broken valvespring retainer.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by st00pid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One-Fab isnt the only shop that can tune a stock H22A, They were the only shop to push the H22A to this level. Any tuner can do what was done with Matt's car, there is no magic in the tune. However, Matt is a very rare breed of person that has no regard for what most people consider safe for pushing a stock motor. He didnt care if the motor blew, He wanted power and he got it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe that's the attitude i should take. I was all pussing out about boosting the stock block/internals. I'll just keep with my plans of the peakboost kit in spring. And see what i can get with an off the shelf setup with a good tune.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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You're likely to get a blown motor... unless you seriously dont care about blowing your motor up you shouldnt push it. I am planning on going a little farther than most but that's because I have an extra block. Stock block boost isnt for everyone... most tuners will tell you the same thing.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93preludes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're likely to get a blown motor... unless you seriously dont care about blowing your motor up you shouldnt push it. I am planning on going a little farther than most but that's because I have an extra block. Stock block boost isnt for everyone... most tuners will tell you the same thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Possibly. But even with a built shortblock, my goal is 400whp. For a daily thats more then enough. Might be able to do it for a while on the stock shortblock. And if it does blow, guess its time for the sleeves, rods, pistons, right?
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