I have a Comptech Shitbox, which sometimes will bounce you out of GS. but I also now have a Mugen wing, and Falken Azenis on K-1s. I asked Shultz last weekend but he wasn't sure. Do rice wings put you in different classes?

 

K1s are wider than stock wheel, so that will kick you out of Stock class.. It would be CSP I believe for you.. Or the new STS class, can't remember what its called..

 

Is the Comptech Shitbox an air intake? Either way you are most likely CSP or STS. The wheels bump you, the airbox bumps you and technically the wing bumps you because stock classes have aesthetic minimum standards . . .

 

Its a Type R, so its not legal for STS. Though it is legal for the new class that was created called STX. Basically STS cars with Limited Slips.

 

CSP or STX. No ITR in STS.

 

Thats what I meant STX, i just forgot what it was called....

 

yeah the Shitbox was Boba-Fett's name for the Icebox...so I'm basically looking at STX then? what other cars run in it, and would I get my *** kicked with stock suspension?

 

hey, wont the mugen wing class you under "StReEt TiZzItE" ?
THUD

 

STX is the WRX class. So provided it isn't a ProSolo start, the ITR should do okay.

 

Other possible contenders include:

IS300, Scooby WRX (STi when available), E30 M3, Mustangs are also eliglble, but are limited to 7.5" wide wheels and 225 tires. So grip may be limiting.

It may be tough with the stock suspension.

 

Hey Misa go back and play in the kills forum...lol

 

That depends... if you haven't done much autocrossing, you may very well get your *** kicked even with a suspension.

It really depends on what cars and drivers run in your area. At a national level event, you'll likely get your *** kicked even with a suspension (unless you're a national level autocrosser, but my guess is you're not since you're asking about classing). I sure get my *** kicked at all of them, but they're fun anyway.

 

There's no way they'd let the WRX and the STi in the same class, would they?

 

 

Diane,

that's kind of funny...I have never autoxed in my life, but last weekend at VIR, my instructor said it was obvious that I was a multiple autox winner from the way I threw the car around the track. hmmm

 

They both fit the same rules: 2.0L or under Turbo. Now if it were a stock class then probably not.

The Mitsu Evo will (should) also be eligible.

Yeah the R could have a tough time at the national level. But we do have the weigth (or lack there of) on our side.

 

Maybe he/she was trying to complement you on "SOMETHING", cause there were no complements coming on your drivig, he said ducking and running.

 

Don't instructors roll their eyes when they get a student with a lot of autocross experience?

 

That's really not a good thing.

In general, autocrossers have the hardest time of anyone transitioning to track driving. If you autocross, you are used to throwing your car around, which is NOT what you want to do on track to be fast. My first session out each weekend usually sucks due to my autocross past. It takes me a session to settle down and be smooth since my "instinct" is to throw the car around since I was an autocrosser first.

Please don't take any of this as a slam. That's not the way it was intended. The first response was meant to be funny. "Will I get my butt kicked?" well "Yes, probably if you don't have much experience, it won't have anything to do with your suspension."

Example: When I have run at the SCCA Nationals in Topeka, the tire to have is the Hoosier. Now, I don't even bother getting the Hoosier since that item is not what would keep me from winning Nationals. I'm just not a fast enough autocrosser for it to matter what tires I'm running on.

Get it? I wasn't slamming you, I was simply meaning that until you've learn to drive on the suspension you have, don't spend the money on an aftermarket suspension.

Just one person's opinion.

edit - spelling


[Modified by r2x, 3:35 PM 2/22/2002]

 

Why yes, they do.

edit - Well, it really depends on their attitude. Know it all already vs. Open minded.


[Modified by r2x, 3:43 PM 2/22/2002]

 

I think that's what he was referring to, I have that same problem. My first session (or two) I always brake way too late and do other abusive stuff to the car. After riding with someone I smoothed it out and got quite a bit faster.

I have to repair my stock suspension and make the damn car go straight before I can even think about spending more $$ on something else. Plus, my skill level doesn't quite warrant it yet.

 

HEY! So long as you don't try to autocross on the track, it works just fine! Just have to keep the two mindsets pretty separate.

 

I think that's the key, there.

FWIW, if I'm instructing a newbie, I would rather it be someone with autocross experience. If they're decent autocrossers and already have good car control, they have zero problems making the transition to driving on a racetrack. Just going by experience with a few people I know (Tim Aro, Sam Strano, Eric Kriemelmeyer, Karen, George Perinis) after their first track days.

I remember last year when George took his first driving school . Barry Brown, a showroom stock racer, was instructing him and kind of laughed off George's autocross experience and planned on him taking it easy the first few sessions because he was a newbie. That plan went out the window. In fact, when George's right-front brake caliper failed going down into turn 1 (120 mph and no brakes! ) in his last session, Barry commended him for keeping the car under control when they went into the gravel trap.

 

They seem to think the Prelude SH belongs in the same class as the WRX, so it seems reasonable in comparison that the STi fit in there too

 

thats only because of the ATTS differential in the Type SH Prelude.. there was a lot of discussion about this on preludeonline