Im looking at building myself a d16z all motor (for the time, maybe fi later on). I'm new in the motor construction so i don't know to much about all the parts but i'm learning so, what are some of the best and needed parts to get to make the most power out of my d? I've seen a d all motor put down 170 whp and thats pretty impressive i think, but also if some of yall could post what you have in yours to give me some ideas that would be great. Thanks, hope i can get some help here.

 

why all motor for a d16? 170whp can be reached alot more easier if you boost it instead. Plus it would be alot cheaper than trying to get a d16 all motor to 170whp.

 

my goal is to all motor and then when i get more money, give it some nice boost...can anybody help me with my project

 

Sounds like a fun project, but I think you should post a little more about your project before you start wanting some help. I guess your goal is to achieve 170whp, but what are you looking to spend and do... just curious...

 

no actually my goal would be more, but basically what im needing help on is what are all the parts i would need to totally rebuilt the engine, keeping in mind the future is looking at boostin it also? I mean i have an idea such as rods, pistons, valves, springs, retainers, cam, cam gear, and pulleys, but what else is needed?

 

bump for help

 

hey speedy... i was going the all motor direction until i spent around a grand on it on intake header exhaust the right tranny... let me tell u... i am about to go fi and i am getting my complete setup for 800.. it would be 1200 if you dont have the intercooler and manifold already... but i am using the stock cx manifold..

anyways for 800 bucks tuned and everything the guy said im going to be pushing 170 easily on 7 psi.... go to homemadeturbo.com lost of info there.. but if you want to seriously go all motor....

get the pm7 pistons out of the 86-89 1.6 d series twin cam or the twin cam zc from japan... that will give u about 12:1 compression get a crower stage 2 or stage 3 ( you need to have a race port and polish that is going to cost around 800 for the stage 3 ) cam gear, p28 chipped using some kind of tuning management i.e. crome uberdata....good flowing header.. not dc maybe like smsp or megan racing...

thats a little help for u but trust me after you spend all the money on ur allmotor build... you are going to wish u went turbo and saved yourself about 2 grand good luck with ur setup

 

i forgot who it was but theres a memeber on here that makes the smsp header and its very nice ill look for his name

contact SMSP on here ask him how much the header is for ur motor... he builds quality stuff

 

thanks, but i need some more clearer help (I plan to go fi in the future on the built motor and put down good numbers on a higher boost). All i need to know is what i need, parts wise, to rebuild my motor.

 

last bump, for someone who knows something

 

in order to make good power all motor you are going to need to have some higher compression. when you go boost you are going to want low compression. so it would be hard to build a high hp all motor car then slap a turbo on the same setup.

 

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excatly a d16 to make 150+whp all motor your gonna need 12.1+ more compression which is not gonna happen on a pump gas turbo car, sorry its reality

 

Also if you went from all motor to fi, your header would b useless, ur exhaust would most likely be useless, ur intake could end up useless, if you have a big all motor cam on there that would probably b useless. I think u'd have a better time choosing one or the other and delve into that with the right parts.

 

alright, well lets say im going for the fi route....what are the main internals that i would need to get to have a decent boost on it?

 

If you decide to go FI, you might be in the wrong forum.

If you want NA D16, d-series.org is your friend. The numbers have proven that a D16 can reach the HP area between that of a B16 and B18C1, close to a C5. This is not the extreme type of set up, but doable for daily driving.

Good luck.

 

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Obviously you'll have to decide whether you want boost or not before doing anything. Each route involves a completely different set of rules.

I had a boosted D for 3 years (until it was stolen). I did my homework, spent wisely ($1500), and ended up with a stock internals boosted d16 that was 100% reliable for over 30,000 miles @ 9psi. My recommendation is not to touch the motor. Instead, put your research and $$$ into the turbo kit. Once you get it installed and the A/F tuned correctly, either you'll be satisfied with the performance (I was), or you'll want more power than the stock internals can reliably handle. Start building the motor at that point.

 

that fell through now im lookin at getting a crx and dropping a b16