2000 Accord Modified (Pics & Questions)
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2000 Accord Modified (Pics & Questions)
First off, let me say; I am not a gearhead or a street car enthusiast; and most likely should not have bought this car modified, but I did so Ive got to accept it and try it keep it running.
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I bought this car about a month ago; had a pretty good price tag and a good bit of modification already done on it.
The guy I had bought it from, was the 2nd owner; and the one who did the modifications; I'll list what he told me was done, and ask some questions to you guys.
VTEC VLEV
HKS dual exhaust
Turbonetics Turbo / wastegate
Blowoff valve
MSD Ignition
various other misc things i dont remember
body kit, wheels, spoiler etc..
All in all, he said he had around 30k in the car total, inside and out and is the reason I bought the car from him it had low miles also (45k when i bought it).
Now as to discuss some issues and some questions.
He said he had the car dynod and tuned at one point (I assume the boost was tuned high and running racing gas at that point) and it put out 325 hp; now when I bought the car he was starting college and this was his "only" driving car and he said it was running on 87 unleaded which I do now; so I "Imagine" he'd have had to turn the boost down to almost nothing or I would be running serious chance of fckin something up.
When I drive it now, it runs smooth as better, on 87; cant explain it.. it just does, so I imagine I must have almost no boost as of now or very little; seems like he 2-5lb i believe.
Some of the problems Ive noticed and need to get fixed.
1. When I initially turn the car on, there is a faint blue smoke for approx 10-30 sec and then clears out.. not sure why this is; some people have told me I might have oil leaking into the combustion chamber.
2. Directly to wear the turbo is attached to the front of the header, under the piece of aluminum as you can see in the engine bay pic; exhaust comes out of there sometimes.. seems to be when the daytime temperature changes.. sometimes it comes out and you can see it coming up from around the hood, sometimes not.. either way the hood is always warm. My grandpa who is a mechanic said it was most likely a gasket leak.. so im wondering how am i gonna get that replaced?
Any help would be appreciated.
Images (Will Upload New Ones Today / Tomorrow)
^ Are Old Pics
Will upload new ones soon..
New Pictures, took these about 5 minutes ago.. maybe can figure out some stuff that I have in the car..
I need to find out what engine type I have as well, in terms of specifics.
Here are some new pics, these are a couple low resolution pics;
The engine bay pics which are high resolution (although i have a sucky *** digicam) maybe you guys can pick through it a bit. I will try and get some under body pics tomorrow.
Lots Of Pics
http://forums.livingwithstyle.com/tf/new_car_pics/
Modified by Trigunflame at 5:47 PM 8/12/2005
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I bought this car about a month ago; had a pretty good price tag and a good bit of modification already done on it.
The guy I had bought it from, was the 2nd owner; and the one who did the modifications; I'll list what he told me was done, and ask some questions to you guys.
VTEC VLEV
HKS dual exhaust
Turbonetics Turbo / wastegate
Blowoff valve
MSD Ignition
various other misc things i dont remember
body kit, wheels, spoiler etc..
All in all, he said he had around 30k in the car total, inside and out and is the reason I bought the car from him it had low miles also (45k when i bought it).
Now as to discuss some issues and some questions.
He said he had the car dynod and tuned at one point (I assume the boost was tuned high and running racing gas at that point) and it put out 325 hp; now when I bought the car he was starting college and this was his "only" driving car and he said it was running on 87 unleaded which I do now; so I "Imagine" he'd have had to turn the boost down to almost nothing or I would be running serious chance of fckin something up.
When I drive it now, it runs smooth as better, on 87; cant explain it.. it just does, so I imagine I must have almost no boost as of now or very little; seems like he 2-5lb i believe.
Some of the problems Ive noticed and need to get fixed.
1. When I initially turn the car on, there is a faint blue smoke for approx 10-30 sec and then clears out.. not sure why this is; some people have told me I might have oil leaking into the combustion chamber.
2. Directly to wear the turbo is attached to the front of the header, under the piece of aluminum as you can see in the engine bay pic; exhaust comes out of there sometimes.. seems to be when the daytime temperature changes.. sometimes it comes out and you can see it coming up from around the hood, sometimes not.. either way the hood is always warm. My grandpa who is a mechanic said it was most likely a gasket leak.. so im wondering how am i gonna get that replaced?
Any help would be appreciated.
Images (Will Upload New Ones Today / Tomorrow)
^ Are Old Pics
Will upload new ones soon..
New Pictures, took these about 5 minutes ago.. maybe can figure out some stuff that I have in the car..
I need to find out what engine type I have as well, in terms of specifics.
Here are some new pics, these are a couple low resolution pics;
The engine bay pics which are high resolution (although i have a sucky *** digicam) maybe you guys can pick through it a bit. I will try and get some under body pics tomorrow.
Lots Of Pics
http://forums.livingwithstyle.com/tf/new_car_pics/
Modified by Trigunflame at 5:47 PM 8/12/2005
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (Trigunflame)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Trigunflame »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
When I drive it now, it runs smooth as better, on 87; cant explain it.. it just does, so I imagine I must have almost no boost as of now or very little; seems like he 2-5lb i believe.
1. When I initially turn the car on, there is a faint blue smoke for approx 10-30 sec and then clears out.. not sure why this is; some people have told me I might have oil leaking into the combustion chamber.
2. Directly to wear the turbo is attached to the front of the header, under the piece of aluminum as you can see in the engine bay pic; exhaust comes out of there sometimes.. seems to be when the daytime temperature changes.. sometimes it comes out and you can see it coming up from around the hood, sometimes not.. either way the hood is always warm. My grandpa who is a mechanic said it was most likely a gasket leak.. so im wondering how am i gonna get that replaced?
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first of, do NOT put 87 octane in that car. you're asking for more problems. run the highest octane gas available in your area. (hopefully 93) otherwise you are going to detonate & toast that motor.
you probably have leaking valve seals which are leaking oil into the combustion chamber when the car's off and when you start it it burns off.
the hood will always be warm with a turbo setup. under that "piece of aluminum" (which is a heat shield BTW) is the turbine - the turbine connects to the downpipe, sounds like you have some loose bolts either connecting the turbo --> manifold or the turbo --> downpipe. get in there with some open end wrenches and tighten all the bolts. loose bolts on the turbo are common and I have dealt with it many times. if you can, put some lock washers on every bolt.
when you have a chance get a compression test done right away to check the condition of that motor. if the compression comes up a-ok I will be surprised, sorry to say that, but if it's been running 87 for a while that motor's probably already on its way out, and the dude who sold it to you just wanted out of the project....
-B
When I drive it now, it runs smooth as better, on 87; cant explain it.. it just does, so I imagine I must have almost no boost as of now or very little; seems like he 2-5lb i believe.
1. When I initially turn the car on, there is a faint blue smoke for approx 10-30 sec and then clears out.. not sure why this is; some people have told me I might have oil leaking into the combustion chamber.
2. Directly to wear the turbo is attached to the front of the header, under the piece of aluminum as you can see in the engine bay pic; exhaust comes out of there sometimes.. seems to be when the daytime temperature changes.. sometimes it comes out and you can see it coming up from around the hood, sometimes not.. either way the hood is always warm. My grandpa who is a mechanic said it was most likely a gasket leak.. so im wondering how am i gonna get that replaced?
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first of, do NOT put 87 octane in that car. you're asking for more problems. run the highest octane gas available in your area. (hopefully 93) otherwise you are going to detonate & toast that motor.
you probably have leaking valve seals which are leaking oil into the combustion chamber when the car's off and when you start it it burns off.
the hood will always be warm with a turbo setup. under that "piece of aluminum" (which is a heat shield BTW) is the turbine - the turbine connects to the downpipe, sounds like you have some loose bolts either connecting the turbo --> manifold or the turbo --> downpipe. get in there with some open end wrenches and tighten all the bolts. loose bolts on the turbo are common and I have dealt with it many times. if you can, put some lock washers on every bolt.
when you have a chance get a compression test done right away to check the condition of that motor. if the compression comes up a-ok I will be surprised, sorry to say that, but if it's been running 87 for a while that motor's probably already on its way out, and the dude who sold it to you just wanted out of the project....
-B
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (notoriousB)
Yes, definitely go in and change your gas to 91-93 octane. Another thing, what is it tuned on? I'd recommend taking it to a shop and having it dyno tuned again for your octane and low boost. Might save you some headaches.
And I know this isnt asked in the topic, but theres a lot of things i'd say, and the most important would be take that wing and those shoulder pads off.
And I know this isnt asked in the topic, but theres a lot of things i'd say, and the most important would be take that wing and those shoulder pads off.
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (notoriousB)
Could you go into detail why it would "be on its way out", from running 87? I just want a thorough explanation; you have to understand this is my "Driving" car and I sure as hell am not rich, high octane is indeed "High" right now.
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (Trigunflame)
Octane refers to the gasoline's volatility.
Octane ratings tell you how much the fuel can be compressed before it ignites. When gas ignites by compression rather than because of the spark from the spark plug, it causes knocking in the engine. When you're knocking on a turbocharged car, you're in deep ****. Say goodbye to your engine if you knock even a few times. Lower-octane gas ( 87-octane gasoline) can handle the least amount of compression before igniting. Since a turbocharged engine is subject to more pressure than a regular engine (since the air is being compressed), anything low will be a bitch. When I was turbocharged for a week, I fed it nothing but 93 octane
Octane ratings tell you how much the fuel can be compressed before it ignites. When gas ignites by compression rather than because of the spark from the spark plug, it causes knocking in the engine. When you're knocking on a turbocharged car, you're in deep ****. Say goodbye to your engine if you knock even a few times. Lower-octane gas ( 87-octane gasoline) can handle the least amount of compression before igniting. Since a turbocharged engine is subject to more pressure than a regular engine (since the air is being compressed), anything low will be a bitch. When I was turbocharged for a week, I fed it nothing but 93 octane
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (accordselux)
No a honda dealer wouldnt. Your best bet would be to ask the owner where he got it done, or look in your yellow pages for a shop that has a dyno and tuning. There should be a car customization or performance section in the yellow pages.
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (accordselux)
Sigh, asking would be of no value, I bought this from a guy in virginia !, off EBAY -_-; damn my impulsiveness.
With having very low boost, would it not be ok to run on 87 octane though?
With having very low boost, would it not be ok to run on 87 octane though?
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (Trigunflame)
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you brought a turbo'ed car to SAVE gas? dude, you are not getting any good gas mileage out of that thing anyway.
if you want a gas saver that doesnt blow the hell up when pour in 87octane, GET ANOTHER CAR
not to be an **** but you have no idea how was it tuned, you are asking for trouble for putting **** water in the gastank
sidenote: a 325 boosted accord AUTOMATIC transmission will not last very long
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you brought a turbo'ed car to SAVE gas? dude, you are not getting any good gas mileage out of that thing anyway.
if you want a gas saver that doesnt blow the hell up when pour in 87octane, GET ANOTHER CAR
not to be an **** but you have no idea how was it tuned, you are asking for trouble for putting **** water in the gastank
sidenote: a 325 boosted accord AUTOMATIC transmission will not last very long
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (Trigunflame)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Trigunflame »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im telling you it is set at virtually no boost, im getting atleast 28 mpg i know from the last time i filled it up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL even if you take the wastegate/compressor off(read: zero boost), you have a HEAVILY restricted exhaust, I, have no idea how you gonna get a good gas mileage.
turbo is not just a switch and you can turn on, turn lower, turn off and it will drive like stock.
not to knock on you but if you asked for help..um..just be honest
LOL even if you take the wastegate/compressor off(read: zero boost), you have a HEAVILY restricted exhaust, I, have no idea how you gonna get a good gas mileage.
turbo is not just a switch and you can turn on, turn lower, turn off and it will drive like stock.
not to knock on you but if you asked for help..um..just be honest
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I hope you're joking. Your avatar doesnt give me much hope though.
I hope you're joking. Your avatar doesnt give me much hope though.
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (Trigunflame)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Trigunflame »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im telling you it is set at virtually no boost, im getting atleast 28 mpg i know from the last time i filled it up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
dude mileage has nothing to do with boost. if you don't press the gas pedal too hard you will not build boost and it will be like driving a stock accord.
PUT 93 IN IT DO NOT BE A CHEAP ***. YOU WILL DETONATE YOUR MOTOR UNDER BOOST.
it seems you obviously have no idea what you've gotten yourself into with this car. I wish you (and it) luck.
Key question --> What fuel management are you running on this poor accord?
Unfortunately (for the car) I've got $10 that says you have no clue.
dude mileage has nothing to do with boost. if you don't press the gas pedal too hard you will not build boost and it will be like driving a stock accord.
PUT 93 IN IT DO NOT BE A CHEAP ***. YOU WILL DETONATE YOUR MOTOR UNDER BOOST.
it seems you obviously have no idea what you've gotten yourself into with this car. I wish you (and it) luck.
Key question --> What fuel management are you running on this poor accord?
Unfortunately (for the car) I've got $10 that says you have no clue.
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (notoriousB)
I'll say some words, and when you can post again (tomorrow) let me know if any of htem sound familiar.
"hack"
"FMU"
"Vortech"
"Uberdata"
"Hondata"
"AEM"
"GReddy E-Manage"
"Injectors"
"hack"
"FMU"
"Vortech"
"Uberdata"
"Hondata"
"AEM"
"GReddy E-Manage"
"Injectors"
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (accordselux)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Trigunflame »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I sure as hell am not rich, high octane is indeed "High" right now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not as high as replacing your motor
A few bucks everytime you get gas isn't gonna break you but not spending the extra coin WILL break your motor. You're obviously in way over your head 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaNINE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats one sweet looking accord!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh yeah, the fake TE's and the aluminum picnic table really grab my attention too 
Not as high as replacing your motor
A few bucks everytime you get gas isn't gonna break you but not spending the extra coin WILL break your motor. You're obviously in way over your head <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaNINE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats one sweet looking accord!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh yeah, the fake TE's and the aluminum picnic table really grab my attention too
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (Trigunflame)
Nice showcar. I like the color
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FOR SALE******** 91 Honda Accord H22 Type-S swap 2 door coupe bronze color,black rota slips, Apexi WS exhaust, full MSD Ignition, Jun ECU, skunk 2 coilover package, sway bars Sparco seat with harness, JDM front end conversion very clean garage kept 16K on engine. Royal Purple Oil changed every 1000 miles. 13.26 @103.5 mph $5500.00 Please call Matt 804-437-3386
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (accordselux)
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LOL. after looking again I see the two injector bosses on the intake charge pipe - that's an F-Max kit and appears it may be running the ERL MF2 still.
Look at the condition of the exterior and then that crappy ULEV valve cover. My bet is that the previous owner toasted his old motor, swapped in a new stock motor ($300), and sold that car as fast as possible.
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LOL. after looking again I see the two injector bosses on the intake charge pipe - that's an F-Max kit and appears it may be running the ERL MF2 still.
Look at the condition of the exterior and then that crappy ULEV valve cover. My bet is that the previous owner toasted his old motor, swapped in a new stock motor ($300), and sold that car as fast as possible.
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (notoriousB)
if you are running an open dump setup on your wastegate, exhaust coming out from under your hood is normal, however, not until you are in boost and the wastegate is open...
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (notoriousB)
Are you implying that the one he "could have" swapped in being non-vtec and just using the valve cover? Where can I get those anyway?
Btw, I think im gonna go get it compression tested and possibly even if it comes out alright go ahead with an engine rebuild with all new hardware; any suggestions? Moresoe carrying about stuff that will hold up over time than lightweight, more HP and apt to break.
Btw, I think im gonna go get it compression tested and possibly even if it comes out alright go ahead with an engine rebuild with all new hardware; any suggestions? Moresoe carrying about stuff that will hold up over time than lightweight, more HP and apt to break.
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Re: 2000 Accord Modified (Trigunflame)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Trigunflame »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you implying that the one he "could have" swapped in being non-vtec and just using the valve cover? Where can I get those anyway?
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no I'm not implying anything of the sort.
I think he blew his first motor, realized what he got himself into, swapped in a junkyard special, and sold the car to you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by notoriousB »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look at the condition of the exterior and then that crappy ULEV valve cover. My bet is that the previous owner toasted his old motor, swapped in a new stock motor ($300), and sold that car as fast as possible.</TD></TR></TABLE>
where the hell did I mention non-vtec? or even imply it?
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no I'm not implying anything of the sort.
I think he blew his first motor, realized what he got himself into, swapped in a junkyard special, and sold the car to you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by notoriousB »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look at the condition of the exterior and then that crappy ULEV valve cover. My bet is that the previous owner toasted his old motor, swapped in a new stock motor ($300), and sold that car as fast as possible.</TD></TR></TABLE>
where the hell did I mention non-vtec? or even imply it?
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Where are the pics?!
Premium gas is at most $0.30 more per gallon than regular, right? At empty a 17 gallon fill up will cost you a maximum $5.10 MORE for premium gas fill up than regular. $5 vs. $500. If you have any intelligence, you'd buy that $5 insurance every week until you figure out if your car needs that high octane fuel or not.
Premium gas is at most $0.30 more per gallon than regular, right? At empty a 17 gallon fill up will cost you a maximum $5.10 MORE for premium gas fill up than regular. $5 vs. $500. If you have any intelligence, you'd buy that $5 insurance every week until you figure out if your car needs that high octane fuel or not.