well, they don't have 215/45/15's, so I guess I'll ask for your help guys:

215/40ZR16 86W VSB Goodyear Eagle F1 GS -D3
Exceptional traction and handling in a European-designed ultra performance radial.
Item: 786473
Price: $140.83

vs
225/45R16 89W BSW BF Goodrich g-FORCE T/A KDW (NT
Ultra-high performance tire recommended for almost every UHP fitment.
Item: 661772
Price: $140.68

vs

225/45ZR16 RRBL BFGOODRICH PILOT SPORT
World class dry handling, excellent wet performance, predictable cornering, and excellent comfort an
Item: 275924
Price: $195.74


they cost about the same at ~$350 out the door for the set (hookup price).

OR:

Dunlop SL Direzza® 215/45R16 - BSWTL
All-season performance tread design balances dry and wet grip for excellent all-weather grip.
Item: 328663
Price: $118.87

discuss!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

225/45R16 89W BSW BF Goodrich g-FORCE T/A KDW (NT
Ultra-high performance tire recommended for almost every UHP fitment.
Item: 661772
Price: $140.68
</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Why not the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212 for ~$85/tire in 215/45/16? Are you limited to buying from Sam's Club only for some reason?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugen Mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why not the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212 for ~$85/tire in 215/45/16? Are you limited to buying from Sam's Club only for some reason?</TD></TR></TABLE>


Yes, I am limited to Sam's club because of the discount.

$350 out the door for tires that cost $140 a piece is a good deal.

I'm worried that the 225/45/16's will be too tall.....

 

i wouldn't be worried about them being too tall, i'd worry about the car being sloppy with those wide tires, and the tires rubbing the control arms.

 

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Let me go snap a pic quick -- that's what I have on the car now....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SecretAgent &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wouldn't be worried about them being too tall, i'd worry about the car being sloppy with those wide tires, and the tires rubbing the control arms. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i don't know about you, but wider tires have only helped me grip that much better. sloppy = better grip? rrrr....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugen Mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why not the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212 for ~$85/tire in 215/45/16? Are you limited to buying from Sam's Club only for some reason?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im running these on my JDM ITR rims, picked them up at the Discount tire warehouse for 280 out the door...

 

Find someone with a tirerack wholesale account; their tires from last year are filthy cheap.

 

Its not a good deal if the tires suck.

 

Anyone have review on these Direzza DZ101 since they do come in
JDM oem size? $108 each at Tirerack.

 

Can you get a 205/45/16? Theyre fractionally smaller (height wise) than the stock 195/55/15!

 

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Second.


ES100's are $96 each in that size on tirerack...

 

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I wonder if Nick says that about the RS too.

 

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.....too skinny. I can't go with anything skinnier than the stock 215 width.

Jety - what leads you to believe that all of the tires listed above are inferior to re010's?

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, I am limited to Sam's club because of the discount.

$350 out the door for tires that cost $140 a piece is a good deal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm confused. If you can get better tires for $340 per set without a discount, than the tires you can get for $350 per set with a discount... why not? And, they're the right size, too!

Here are my comments about the various tires that have been mentioned in this topic (without regard to size):

Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 - Arguably the very best top-of-the-line street tire on the road today, aside from fast-wearing, super-sticky tires like the Falken RT-615 and the Hankook Z212. Great handling, great grip wet or dry. Better in side-by-side testing than the longtime best street tire around, the Bridgestone S-03, and 10-20 percent cheaper, too.

BFGoodrich g-FORCE T/A KDW - Good "budget performance" tire (performance comparable to Yokohama ES100, Kumho Ecsta SPT, etc). A bit more expensive than others in this category.

BFGOODRICH PILOT SPORT - Do you mean the Michelin Pilot Sport? (I know BFG is a Michelin subsidiary now, but I believe the Pilot Sport is marketed under the Michelin label, not BFG.) The Michelin Pilot Sport is another excellent top-of-the-line street tire, comparable to the Bridgestone S-03 but more expensive.

Dunlop SL Direzza - All-season tire. If you're looking for a tire that is okay in snow and frigid cold as well as warm weather, then maybe. But most folks prefer the superior performance of summer tires in nice weather and aren't willing to compromise that for winter-weather performance.

Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212 - Super-sticky, great dry traction, great price too. If you loved the old Falken Azenis RT-215, you'll love this tire. I haven't heard of anyone wearing a set out yet, but I suspect they will wear rapidly. If you plan to take your car to the track using your street tires, this would be an excellent choice.

Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - Another "budget performance" tire to compete with the Yokohama ES100 (and reportedly better than the Yoko). Very good performance at a bargain price. Too bad you missed the $50 rebate which expired last Saturday. Still a great deal.

Yokohama ES100 - The best known "budget performance" tire. Very good performance at a bargain price. Great on wet pavement, lasts a long time.

Bridgestone RE010 - The 15" are the stock ITR tire and offer great handling. But the 16" sold in North America are designed specifically for the NSX (different compounds front vs rear, belts designed to work with NSX alignment, side-specific so you have to buy a left tire vs a right tire, etc).

I'll post about sizes in a moment.

 

As we all know, the stock size for the USM ITR is 195/55-15. You risk rubbing on the wheel wells and fender liners as a function of going wider AND larger in outer diameter. The speedometer and odometer accuracy also vary as you change the outer diameter. And, if you go much larger than stock, acceleration is slowed (it's like getting taller gears).

The width (the first number in the tire size) is obvious. Here's how the outer diameters of those various tire sizes compare with stock:

215/45-16: +0.7 percent
215/40-16: -2.9 percent
225/45-16: +2.3 percent
205/45-16: -0.8 percent

My recommendation: Stick with 215/45-16 or 205/45-16, whose outer diameters are both pretty close to stock. If you care about performance more than anything else, get the super-sticky Hankook Z212 in 215/45-16 (~$85/tire). If you want some street-friendliness - i.e. a tire that won't wear superfast and will do well wet and dry - then get the Dunlop Direzza DZ101 in 215/45-16 ($108/tire at the Tire Rack). If you want a nice blend of both, great performance and decent life, then get the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 in 205/45-16 ($128/tire at the Tire Rack), which - despite being slightly narrower - will outperform any of the other tires mentioned, with the exception of the Z212. (In addition to beating the S-03 in Tire Rack side-by-side testing, the F1 GS-D3 also gets the very best user reviews - yes, number 1 overall - of the 23 tires shown in the Tire Rack's top performance category.)

 

Man, $350 for any of the sets above?

Can you scan the advertisement in for proof? Sounds too good to be true

 

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Can you scan the advertisement in for proof? Sounds too good to be true </TD></TR></TABLE>

You didn't read his post thoroughly:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they cost about the same at ~$350 out the door for the set <FONT SIZE="4">(hookup price)</FONT>.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Prices to the general public are the per-tire prices he stated in the rest of his post.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You didn't read his post thoroughly:

Prices to the general public are the per-tire prices he stated in the rest of his post.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I jumped the gun. Ken you are a TEASE!

 

thanks Ken!

It looks like I can get the Direzza's for under $280 out the door.
That sounds like a heck of a deal, so I'm apt to go with those.

However, the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 sounds like a better tire for only $50 more....

I sure wish there was a 225/40/16 available!

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Well, I can get a much more (msrp) expensive tire out the door for the price of a cheapy tire at a cheapy price (shipped). Out the door includes mounting/ balancing/ tax.

Although, I can mount tires myself at my friend's shop for free so that's a moot point.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It looks like I can get the Direzza's for under $280 out the door.
That sounds like a heck of a deal, so I'm apt to go with those.

However, the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 sounds like a better tire for only $50 more....</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's a good summary. It's like comparing the Yokohama ES100 with the Bridgestone S-03. The S-03 is by far the better performing tire, but the ES100 costs a lot less. (If the difference is only $50 on a set of four, that would make it a no-brainer.)

Again, if I were getting the F1 GS-D3, I would get it in 205/45-16, because it's closer in outer diameter to stock than the 215/40-16.

Your choice...