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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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My Civic has a D16Y7 motor in it. Unfortunately, I don't have the money to drop a B16 or B18 in it. So this is what I'm working with. First off, what are the best cold air intake and exhaust system to buy for this engine? As for the exhaust, I wanted something no larger than 4 inches, 3 1/2 if possible and not too loud. I really like the sound of the Greddy EVO catbacks, but I was looking at getting the Apexi WS2. Any suggestions on that? Another thing is I'm trying to figure out what my car is. I don't reeally understand the EG7 and EK9 stuff, so what exactly is mines? I just started so I don't know too much. If there's anything else that I can do to the engine that I'm working with, other than turbo and nitrous, hand it to me.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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first off 3.5" exhaust will kill your performance. look at 2.5 and there are many good cold air's AEM's fitment is sopt on, although i dont like cold airs because of the hydrolock possibilities, if you cant afford a swap, look at a mini me. swapping a y8 head onto your existing block.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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honestly, save your money and go turbo, I too wasted my money on intake, headers, exhaust, and the difference between having those and having turbo is just not comparable.....you'll never have torque unless you go turbo.....just get that cheap stuff out of your head...I can't stress that enough...if you INSIST on doing a cheap upgrade, get an ex/si short gear tranny, I noticed that more than intake/headers/exhaust... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't waste your money like I did....it's not worth it for ~5whp......with the money you spend on those 3 items you can put together a turbo system that will generate tons of hp and torque. I learned from experience, I just finished putting my turbo in 2 weeks ago.

**Edit** your car (96-00) is an EK....look on your dash at your VIN and you will see EK in there followed by another number. I have an EG8
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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listen to the man I am in the process of doing this. turbo is friend!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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More like EJ.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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i think he means no larger than 4" outlet... not no larger than 4" the piping...and SLPRcivic with those bolt ons ur prob not gonna even feel a difference u might feel it a little bit if u got a header too but i doubt it ur best bet is to keep it stock for now and check out the write ups and stuff on a mini me swap like boostedcivicsir said....this should almost cost around 500 and if u where planing on getting exhaust and intake u will still have money left over...if it was me i would just keep saving and peice together a turbo kit anywhere from $800 to $2000. u will get allot more power from that than any i/h/e setup.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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tranny swap, best bang for buck (man i'm always saying this). find a 92-00 ex tranny or an 92-95 si tranny. you can find them pretty cheap if you look around. i'd do this before any other mod, it will give you a feelable performance gain not just noise.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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most name brand exhaust applications comes with 2.38" piping. anything over that on a single slammer is killin it to me

an intake will kill your gas mileage if you care about that.

a d16y8 tranny will be fun with that motor.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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What is the cheapest turbo for that engine that I have?
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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sig material? lol jk....

if u want cheap get one of those xspower ebay kits...
if u want go custom .... or a kit greddy revhard...etc.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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i was told that you was suppose to build your car up to be able to turbo it. but then again this guy is usually full of it. would the suspension and axles be able to handle turble if its factory dx?

and i also had a friend who took his car to the track and broke his axles. how much of an upgrade do u have to do wen getting a turbo? cuz getting one is not good enuff? its gotta be turbo ready
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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I got the same car and was wondering if I could turbo and get like 400hp? Iwas planning to do a JDM H22 turbo but wont If I dont have to.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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honostly you can slap a turbo on anything, the amount of boost and tuning determines weather or not you blow up. A greddy kit comes with 5.5psi and you don't have to tune a thing...it works fine and will easily go on your car, it's when you get boost happy and crank it up that things start to take a turn....read up more on turbo I certainly have learned quite a bit.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 05:40 AM
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Ok, so turbo? How much am I looking at for parts and install? I guess I would want something cheap but still decent. Any have any suggestions on where I can check em out?
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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check out http://www.homemadeturbo.com and read up, for kits, look around the sponsor marketplace
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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Alright, I'm seriously thinking about this XS Power Turbo I found, it's like 600.00. Is this any good? Also, back to the tranny, how much of a power increase would the SI tranny have on my car? And the D16Y8 head for my existing block, would that have much of an effect on my car and is that the only one that I could put on for the most power? Oh yeah, and I'm not sure about this but does any know where I can get a nice valve cover for the D16Y7?
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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go turbo, it's the only way to make some power w/ d-series
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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you haven't done any reading, and you haven't done any searching, XS power aka SSAutoCrap....are ****......DO NOT BUY THEM unless you want your turbo to break in half....buy a name brand kit, or piece one together yourself.....if you don't know what all is included, then you don't understand yet and you need to do MORE reading and searching.....Don't buy anything until you fully understand it. A homemade turbo setup will cost anywhere between 500-1000 bucks using spare parts from other cars and kits, for a kit you're gonna pay around 1500-2200, for a pimp tight/reliable setup you're going to be talking 2500-5000. Everything else like motor work is totaly seperate and optional and costs lots of money to have it handle lots of power and be reliable.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLPRcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, back to the tranny, how much of a power increase would the SI tranny have on my car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it will not give you any more power but because it has much shorter gearing than the dx tranny it will give you a significant boost in performance. damn i wish spade's post on d-series upgrades was still around. as i said before do the tranny swap 1st, it will give you biggest upgrade per dollar.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohc_boy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it will not give you any more power but because it has much shorter gearing than the dx tranny it will give you a significant boost in performance. damn i wish spade's post on d-series upgrades was still around. as i said before do the tranny swap 1st, it will give you biggest upgrade per dollar.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct! Transaxles DO NOT create power, engines do that. The transaxle simply applies the power to the wheels, a short gear tranny will get you 0-60 faster by using smaller gears to spin the axles.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 05:11 AM
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get a ytranny from a y8 or z6, get the intake manifold and head from the respective engine... get all your hearts desire in bolt-ons, crower stage 2 valvetrain, zc p29 pistons, port/polish head and im and a good tune up...

Check d-series.org too!
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Alright, XS Power sucks then. It sounds like you know what you're talking about so I'll go with what you say. I'll start looking in to other turbos. Also, before I put on a turbo kit, would I have to prep my engine in any way? Or does the turbo just go on and works. And back to the tranny, which one would give the most acceleration? And do I have to make any modifications to engine before putting it on or does it just fit and bolt on perfectly?
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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you don't HAVE to do anything to your engine if you're running low boost, it will bolt on and go...if you ever want to turn up the boost though, then you'll want to look into engine upgrades....but at 5psi you should be fine, that's what I'm runnin right now before I swap in my built motor.

All d-series transaxles will bolt directly on with no modifications needed. The 92-00 ex or the 92-95 si are the ones you're looking for.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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So lets say I do the turbo and tranny and all the regular bolt ons. Would my car run faster or slower than swapping the engine to a GSR motor STOCK with no modifications. Or what about a B16 stock? Which should I do to get the most for my money? Stock B16, B18, or D16Y7 with upgrades?
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