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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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well i have a fully built swap for sale right now, but i got to thinking why not sell part of it (you know the header twm's and cams) and keep the rest and slap my t3/t4 i have lying around on. what do you think? i spent almost 14 thou on the entire build and i cant sell it for 8000 so why not try to keep my losses to a minimum.
i also tried selling the whole car but th at was no luch either.

here is a pic of my car.

well i haver a fully built swap for sale right now, but i got to thinking why not sell part of it (you know the header twm's and cams) and keep the rest and slap my t3/t4 i have lying around. what do you think? i spent almost 14 thou on the entire build and i cant sell it for 8000 so why not try to keep my losses to a minimum.
i also tried selling the whole car but th at was no luch either.

here is a pic of my car.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/...hotos

tell me what you think.

tell me what you think.

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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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1) Why did you type everything twice.

2) If you have a motor capable of making anywhere near 275whp N/A too add a turbocharger too it you would be on the verge of having to run nitro methane. lol Are you really that dense or is this a joke?
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 03:10 AM
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Back then hoes didn't want me. Now I'm hot hoes all on me.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 03:47 AM
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good idea to cut your losses. slap some lower compression pistons and get the rotating assmbly balanced
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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you are an idiot. if i had enough knowledge to even obtane that much power na than how could i be that dumb to put a turbo on that exact engine.
i cant believe a statement like that would come froma guy that has been around h-t for as long as you. i would expect that from a noob.

as for the repeating, yea o
ops. i am an idiot for that, i cut a pasted that post.

and thanks for the input.any other thoughts?
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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From the looks of it, you have a H22 in there. Given that, have you sleeved that existing block? Cause if you haven't, turbocharging a H22 that hasn't not been sleeved is considered a no no.

What are you intentions with this car? Daily driver? 1/4? road racing? I think these is the main factors that have to be taken into consideration. Btw...turbo is not for everyone.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by meanEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are an idiot. if i had enough knowledge to even obtane that much power na than how could i be that dumb to put a turbo on that exact engine.
i cant believe a statement like that would come froma guy that has been around h-t for as long as you. i would expect that from a noob.

as for the repeating, yea o
ops. i am an idiot for that, i cut a pasted that post.


probably going off this stupid statement that YOU posted....

and werent u the same guy with that setup who was makeing stupid low #'s for the setup at hand?

and thanks for the input.any other thoughts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by meanEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i have a fully built swap for sale right now, but i got to thinking why not sell part of it (you know the header twm's and cams) and keep the rest and slap my t3/t4 i have lying around on. what do you think?

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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chillinit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From the looks of it, you have a H22 in there. Given that, have you sleeved that existing block? Cause if you haven't, turbocharging a H22 that hasn't not been sleeved is considered a no no.

What are you intentions with this car? Daily driver? 1/4? road racing? I think these is the main factors that have to be taken into consideration. Btw...turbo is not for everyone. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well he has forged pistons in it so i'd guesss that he has it sleeved
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by meanEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> 14 thou
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holy ****, is that including the car and everything or just the motor? Well if you are making that power NA im guessing its a high compression motor....I would think that u dont want to put a turbo on a high compression motor...Maybe im just an idiot...........
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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H22 Powered 94 HB
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222 WHP, 168 TQ

thats what your signature says......so i figure one of these is true:

1) Your making up the whole "275hp claim"
2) You paid someone 14k to only get you 222whp out of an h22
3) You say things before you think about them?
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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I believe he was refering to his crank estimated HP... shoot, that is almost as much as me at the crank. Anyway, 14K is way too much to spend and I feel sorry for him, so let him make the hp claims he wants, since it probably make him feel better for wasting his money.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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yeah what are your plans for the car?

seems to me u just want to be able to say you did it.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Car is a sleeper for sure, but I'm not goign to beleive 275 whp without some proof. Seriously man...thats a very very bold claim.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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i never said 275whp. it is crank hp. the last time i went to dyno it made 230 whp on mustang.

the intensions were same as before, daily driver that can whoop ***.

and it was 14000 on just drive train. that was trans, aem, mounts, all of it. i did not pay any labor.

what is 230whp in crank? 275 minus 15%--- ok i made a little mistake, i guess it might be at 271hp.

personally i think i am missing about 20 whp in this setup that is why i am going to cut my losses and throw in the towel and try my luck at turbo.

thanks for all the input, most of you guys are cool to talk to.

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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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did you ever think that the signiture may be a little outdated? man u guys are so quick to find outt flaws, i know what it did and how much money i spent aqnd how much power it made. this post it not meant to see if anyone believes me or not, i dont care if you do. i wanted to talk about my dilemma, that is it.

as napolean whould say "gosh, you idiot"
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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People on here are quick to call BS......its all good as long as folks can prove what they claim.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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wow 14k..u got jacked for 14k you shoulda been making 275 wheel
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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^^^ That was kind of my point. if peopel are making 210 whp from a B18 then you should be making more that 230 whp with 14k invested in an H22.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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i have a serious set up...pm me if your interested.


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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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yea i know that is why i am giving up. add it up, the **** that i got cost that much. i could have cut many corners actually.[ and had close to the same amount of power. i realize this now.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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MEANEG:

Don't call me an idiot man. I read exactly what you wrote. You said sell cams, header and ITB's. That is all. So I assumed you were being retarded and wanted to adda turbo to a NA motor that had the compression capable of making 275whp.

You should learn to convey what you mean more clearly in written word. Have a nice night.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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alright alright all forgiven
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Do you like the driveability of your car or are you out for a big Hp number. I have driven lots of turbo cars with big WHp but tit for tat I would take a quick N/A car all day. the throttle response, traction problems, yadda yadda. I knew another local shop where the guy boosted his H22 and put down 430. Great, from a roll in 3rd he was a dot in the distance at triple diget speeds in a couple of seconds. Outside of that the car was barely streetable and ate through tires in weeks. Traction didn't exist. If it's a daily I'd stick with what you've got. My .02 is that if you want a turbo car with alot of punch part out the whole lot, sell the turbo, and build a Silvia...or something else RWD. Alot of people will flame me for this but the lions share of Honda products really shine as a COMPLETE package when left N/A.

New pistons, a short block rebuild, new cams, new tune, manifold, down pipe, bigger exhaust, better axles and possible hubs depending on how high you go, turbo timer, boost controller, new intake manifold, etc aren''t going to be funded by the sale of a set of ITB's and a header anyway.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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thats all true. actually sounds good coming from you. i never read such a good post froma h-t member. i wish all was that informative. thansk alot.

i do want to daily drive the car. right now it is completely driveable, with a turbo and built block i guess i want to boost 15-20 lbs. i want to run pump gas

here is what i see the budget for
spearco intercooler on ebay 200, cams 400, pistons 500, machine work 150.
piping kit 100, dp 50, manifold 250 i have the turbo freebie, wastegate 250, bov 150.

that less than 2000.hmmm
the other thing i can do is try to get the missinbg 20hp from my motor, but that will cost around 2000 for what i think is wrong . and that wont be funded by selling what i have.

what i should really do is strip the car and drop it off in the city anbd collect insurance, then sell the setup and start all over... too bad that is out of the question,
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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Thanks man 15-20 PSI will for one generate a TON more than 20 hp your searcing for. probablly 350-400 at the wheels and the afore mentioned problems and reliability will be a thing of the past. As to your missing 20, you have most of the goods. I believe that you could sell the turbo, your header, (what cams are you running?) possibly try different cams and another tuner. That motor should be putting out more than the 20 Hp you seek hands down unless you are on a low dyno. Whats your exhaust set up like? Those are B series numbers your making, that motor probably has what you want hinding in it still. Good luck.
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