Flange warps when welded

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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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While welding on the turbo flange to a collector today, when I was about 1/2 way done, the thing looked like a frown. The middle was the high spot, while the outer edges where lower and pulled down. I had done all the welding in little sections about 3/4" long at a time. The flange was 3/8" mild steel.

What did I do wrong? I am using a angle grinder and cutoff wheel to cut the thing off and try again with a spare.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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3/8 thick?!?!?! And I am assuming you were welding something MUCH thinner to it? I have heard of warpage, but how many amps were you using???? MIG or TIG? Try bolting it to a flat surface...even a block of wood.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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i welded a head flange not bolted to aneything when i was done if u put a straight edge on one end the other end was a 1/4 inch gap not good
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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Well first off, when welding to another surface, the mating surface SHOULD be flat... im assuming the collector surface was not all that flat or that gaps were being filled on it. Second, i honestly think 3/8" is to thin for any kind of flange, which is why i never make them that thin!
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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The main setups I have seen with the swedish turbo headers was all 3/8" stuff, and they haven't had any problems with it. This was jsut my first time with it. 1/2" might help, but there is some other problem I need to fix instead of just going overkill to help stop the problem from coming up again.

Now what would be best to get the surface completely flat?


#5, ~65 on my MM210. Was going off the 3/8 settings.

EDIT: I didn't have it bolted to anything. Next time I will be hopefully using a 2" thick press plate drilled with the thing held in place with that.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:43 AM
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I always weld as much as I can bolted down or tacked. Like exploited said, if both surfaces are perfectly flat, it will be minimal...BUT, I don't take the risk anymore because surface grinding takes too long. Whenever I weld a flange, I tack it all around in various spots to a 1" thick plate...weld the crap out of it, let it cool, and cut/break/clean up the tacks. Voila...
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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Hmm, never thought of that. I got some 2" steel plates I can grab out of an old warehouse... hmmm
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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Bolt the piece down to a bigger piece of metal, plus use this next time.




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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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where can I get that stuff?!
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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https://secure.ramweldingsuppl...=1708

You have to enter your zip and it will take you to the page
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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So lets say im making quite a few manifolds. Would it be a good idea to maybe make a special piece just for welding it together? Like maybe a 1inch thick piece or aluminum with the same bolt holes? and if i was really bored i could water cool the aluminum plate is this a good idea or bad?
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