I dunno, my whole car just got repainted and i purposely got the the whole interior repainted so i wont be using carpet or headliner. I kinda think its wack that you have to keep headliner and carpet.


WHat are you's guys thoughts?

 

I think its gay cause you can drive a car on the streets without all that. I've been stopped and the cops just laughed cause it was stripped out. Roll cages add that small amount of weight back in anyway.

 

Yea thats my thoughts also, i mean its not like the carpet and headliner weigh 100lbs.

 

It does suck as the whole interior of our car is painted to but, rules are rules.

It's alot easier to build a car after you read over the rules a bunch of times, and then read them again. Instead of building your car and then trying to get the rules change to fit your car. No hard feelings just letting you know how it is.

John

 

Another thing if they say that then everyone should have to drive those cars to the track. Almost everyone that run the sfwd class trailors in. I'm more street than that I would drive to the event and lay numbers down and drive home. To me thats street not driving a full rig with the car on the back thats trailor queen. If its a few states then thats different. Trailor To the hotel then drive from there atleast ****. Fools were trailoring from one town over. for sfwd cars on trailors.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zubaltec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It does suck as the whole interior of our car is painted to but, rules are rules.

It's alot easier to build a car after you read over the rules a bunch of times, and then read them again. Instead of building your car and then trying to get the rules change to fit your car. No hard feelings just letting you know how it is.

John</TD></TR></TABLE>
He does have a point, because whether you drove it on the street or trailered it, if its built to spec it can compete. But my point was what a crappy spec it is on the headliner and carpet. Its not like it plays a big role on performance or time.

 

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He does have a point, because whether you drove it on the street or trailered it, if its built to spec it can compete. But my point was what a crappy spec it is on the headliner and carpet. Its not like it plays a big role on performance or time. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Either does matching front seats......

 

Your disqualified if you dont have matching seats???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zubaltec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It does suck as the whole interior of our car is painted to but, rules are rules.

It's alot easier to build a car after you read over the rules a bunch of times, and then read them again. Instead of building your car and then trying to get the rules change to fit your car. No hard feelings just letting you know how it is.

John</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is so true... You need to build the car to run in the class you plan on running in. Unfortunetly rules are rules. Sometimes you can get away with certain ones, but you always run a risk.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soda Popinski &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your disqualified if you dont have matching seats??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

It's an NHRA rule from what I have seen.

 

Wow! thats a wierd one.

 

Why not just go out and get a carpet set for the front area just for the track. Then take it out when you dont need it. Same thing with the headliner. Im sure you can make it to where you can swap it in and out (velcro would work good). Rules are rules. They must be followed in order to be competitive. It does sound a little rediculous to have carpet and headliner in a street class car but i think they are trying to keep the look and feeling of a street car.
Gary I.

 

Yea thats whati was thinking. LOL Just ghetto rig it in. LOL

 

Why wouldn't you trailer to an event like that? **** breaks and then you are stranded. That always makes for a fun weekend.

 

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LOL!!!!

 

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He does have a point, because whether you drove it on the street or trailered it, if its built to spec it can compete. But my point was what a crappy spec it is on the headliner and carpet. Its not like it plays a big role on performance or time. </TD></TR></TABLE>

But it does change the look of the car. NHRA and NDRA want the funs to look at the cars and believe they are in fact street cars. The interior just emphasizes that.

Be careful on that removable headliner as you wouldn't want it falling down going down the track. I had dash pieces fly out at me last year and it wasn't fun.

John

 

Well every man has his opinion! The car should be reliable enough to run on the streets. Who wants a street car they can't drive and race if need be. So if you see some clown flexing on the freeway you can't give him a little bit cause theres no trailor at the next stop. Street cars to me should be that a streetable car that can drive around and bang fools guts out. Obviously if you got to trailor the dayum thing everywhere you go then it needs to be a trailor queen. Most of the cars on that fastest SFWD list are not street legal cars anyway. Its called bullshitting the law. Everyone has there opinion though I give props to the 9 second trailor queens with 7 and 8 hundred HP that can't drive to tracks and race though good work on the setups and nice looking rides. Miss me with the nonsense of it being a streetable car though. If someone says hey street car against street car for 1000 bucks and you show up he on a trailor and you drove from San Diego to Arizona for the street battle more than likely he going to hit pay dirt on you. to none driven street class cars. I stand by my words as before.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freakyty2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Well every man has his opinion! The car should be reliable enough to run on the streets. Who wants a street car they can't drive and race if need be. So if you see some clown flexing on the freeway you can't give him a little bit cause theres no trailor at the next stop. Street cars to me should be that a streetable car that can drive around and bang fools guts out. Obviously if you got to trailor the dayum thing everywhere you go then it needs to be a trailor queen. Most of the cars on that fastest SFWD list are not street legal cars anyway. Its called bullshitting the law. Everyone has there opinion though I give props to the 9 second trailor queens with 7 and 8 hundred HP that can't drive to tracks and race though good work on the setups and nice looking rides. Miss me with the nonsense of it being a streetable car though. If someone says hey street car against street car for 1000 bucks and you show up he on a trailor and you drove from San Diego to Arizona for the street battle more than likely he going to hit pay dirt on you. to none driven street class cars. I stand by my words as before. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Street Racing is Illegal.

Thats why we follow the rules and race at the track Legally and within the rules set by the Sanctioning Bodies.

John

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freakyty2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Well every man has his opinion! The car should be reliable enough to run on the streets. Who wants a street car they can't drive and race if need be. So if you see some clown flexing on the freeway you can't give him a little bit cause theres no trailor at the next stop. Street cars to me should be that a streetable car that can drive around and bang fools guts out. Obviously if you got to trailor the dayum thing everywhere you go then it needs to be a trailor queen. Most of the cars on that fastest SFWD list are not street legal cars anyway. Its called bullshitting the law. Everyone has there opinion though I give props to the 9 second trailor queens with 7 and 8 hundred HP that can't drive to tracks and race though good work on the setups and nice looking rides. Miss me with the nonsense of it being a streetable car though. If someone says hey street car against street car for 1000 bucks and you show up he on a trailor and you drove from San Diego to Arizona for the street battle more than likely he going to hit pay dirt on you. to none driven street class cars. I stand by my words as before. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i had 3 friends die just last week street racing. my car does not see any street racing at all, and it will never see any street racing....its too dangerous, especially when you start making a lot of power. however, i did drive my car for nearly 2 hours this week on the street making sure everything was good to go for the track this weekend. drives fine on the street

plus racing at the track is SOOO much more fun!

 

Sorry about your friend bro but everyone that goes there should know and think about the risk. I don't go streetracing anymore but the fact of driving the car to the track still stands if its a streetable car then it should make it and then go home. If you making that kind of power and your cars ot reliable then it shouldn't be concidered a streetable car. Plain as that anyone can take a car and add all the interior to it cut around the cage shave the inside of doors and fenders and put plastic back but driving it to the event and back home after some hard beating miles of racing gets more proprs in my book. I don't give all the props to the guy that built a car and the undercarage is just as clean as the paint job and he can't drive it to work cause hey I don't have a trailor off every exit it might break.

 

In my opinion the street class is very fair. Horsepower is horsepower. Unless the rules regulate how much horsepower you are allowed to make then that is the only way to level the playing field. You are right, carpet and interior do not do much for a performance disadvantage but it keeps the appearance of the cars real just like the quick class was in the good old days. I think the rules are fair because

1. There is still a minium weight limit (I think it is 2200-2300lbs)
2. The car must have all glass windows
3. Tire size is limited to 26" max and not more than 9" wide
4. NHRA Sport FWD class events need to run full exhaust

And your claim that most of the guys running 9's don't have streetable cars is
bogus. Take a close look at them. All they need to do is bolt on the
street tires and presto you have a street car.

You also need to consider that everyone in this class has to also deal with the extra weight of a full unibody car (no hotrod class) and heavy stock steel doors, a full cage, parachute. All that safety equipment is heavy. My car weighed 2150 before the car had its safety equipment put in. I am now at 2440.

Have you actually taken a close look at Matt Kellars DC2 Integra? You can't cheat physics. That car weighs a ton. He is just making a crap load of power and making it hook to go mid 9's. That car is very streetable and is no different than most of the hondas rolling on the streets with turbos. The only difference is that the car is well sorted.

I am still trying to figure out the right suspension combo and mapping to make all that power hook to go 9's. The competition has stepped up thats all. Not trying to flame anyone, just keeping it real.

 

So your telling me these cars can legally go to DMV and get registered and pass a smog inspection. If they were to get past the visual there still would have to be a payoff somewhere in order to get the thing to pass. My opinion is mine and thats that keeler hasn't driven this car 200 miles on any street im sure. I bet the undercarage is so clean you could eat off it. We could debate this for 5 years wouldn't change anything but the fact I have a lot of points about cars not actually being streetable in that class. A lot of you guys know thats true facts but you stick to your belief as well as im sticking to mine those cars on the trailer every weekend that do not get driven to work and stuff of the sort are not street cars plain and simple facts playa. Im willing to bet you 500 bucks if they set up a mobile smog station at the tracks every single one of those cars would fail to meet requirments to be driven on the streets.

 

cars with bone stock single cams break axles at the track. im 20 min. from MIR and have cars towed here from the track atleast every other week.....towing bills for that trip are always well over 100 bucks. if you have a trailor your going to use it. its just the smart thing to do.

last year my car ran 11.4-11.6 each and every single pass. i used to drive it to the track, bolt on my slicks....make 5-6 pass's...put my 18's back on...then drive it 4 hours to the beach....beat the car up there....and drive it 4 hours home. this year i tow it to the track....its just making enough power to break parts now....we all bring spare parts to the track...but if you break a transmission on the last pass of the day at 5pm sunday night....who the hell wants to swap a tranny before they drive home? i sure as hell dont.

i dont look at a car that was driven to the track to be more streetable than the next car......i just look at it as a owner who is taking a HUGE risk. i can only think of a couple T4 cars that would be questionable on the streetability.....but for the most part....all of these cars could be driven to and from events no problem, its just not worth the risk.

on the street racing note........if you hit the wall at the track.....your out of the car in a few seconds with a safety crew and most the time people walk away.......my freind who died last week who hit a tree.....he killed 2 other people, and he was decapitated (sp?) street racing gets a big in my book

 

Sorry to hear about your friend.

Anyway, NOPI has a street tire(drag radial) class for people with "true" street cars to run in.

I don't think any cars running Leaded C16 can't pass emissions anyway. Run what you brung. Its all legit as long as the rules as it is.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freakyty2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> So your telling me these cars can legally go to DMV and get registered and pass a smog inspection. If they were to get past the visual there still would have to be a payoff somewhere in order to get the thing to pass. My opinion is mine and thats that keeler hasn't driven this car 200 miles on any street im sure. I bet the undercarage is so clean you could eat off it. We could debate this for 5 years wouldn't change anything but the fact I have a lot of points about cars not actually being streetable in that class. A lot of you guys know thats true facts but you stick to your belief as well as im sticking to mine those cars on the trailer every weekend that do not get driven to work and stuff of the sort are not street cars plain and simple facts playa. Im willing to bet you 500 bucks if they set up a mobile smog station at the tracks every single one of those cars would fail to meet requirments to be driven on the streets. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You have to remember we all don't live in Cali. In Florida you don't have bring the car to the DMV and there is NO smog testing. I'm sorry you live in a state that has all those laws. Maybe you should MOVE.

Here is yet another law try to get passed in Florida. I would rather not lose my car for be a Jack *** on the street.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/s...orida

John