this guy is a screwball.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...tem=1806367047

 

Those aren't even TODA cams, the TODA vtec killer cams have the non-vtec lobes, but no VTEC lobe. The cams this guy's selling have one big *** VTEC lobe only. He's on crack.


[Modified by MugenDC2R, 6:26 PM 2/20/2002]

 

those don't even look like honda cams.

 

what a dumbass

 

how do we go about reporting this bastid.....

 

FYI - real VTEC Killer cams:




Crap cams:




[Modified by itr009, 10:10 PM 2/20/2002]

 

While we're on the topic, does anyone run these cams, and are they any good? Anyone know HP added and price of them.

 

Big difference.

 

fug...i have no clue how you guys can tell a difference. they all look the same...well i'm glad you guys can tell coz when it comes time for me to buy some, i'll check with you guys to see if its good

 

The VTEC killer Toda Cams are a race only item and they will not idle well.

 

Hmm. I take that back. I wonder if they would operate as if VTEC was engaged all the time?

At any rate, they are not Toda VTEC Killer cams. That much is obvious. But what are they? Hmm!


[Modified by itr009, 11:26 PM 2/20/2002]

 

the concept of a vtec killer cam is stupid anyway, a lobe the size of the one they use could be used on an actual vtec lobe and a normal lobe for the small lobe, this way if the motor and vtec engagement are tuned properly, you'll get the broadest torque band possible from 2 different lobes.

 

If you use killer cams just like having a non-vtec motor

 

they are not supid. those are for race cars... race cars will probbaly rarely go below 7k rpm. there is no need for the 2 small lobes and then the vtec. all they need is one small lobe for the low end and the huge one up top. that's where they need the power. without the vtec system, the valvetrain is lightened and they can revv higher safely.

 

i know some one that had those cams for race only and , well to created the power neede out of the cams he needed to bump his CR way up high , he decided that the spec C are better !

 

Spec C's like high compression as well - ask Jason (fastasknutz)

 

http://www.todaracing.com/cars.html

the last car on this page uses them(the one below mine).

have you held a killer cam in hand? they are light as *****...hollow

feel free to read this http://www.todaracing.com/B162.html

 

 

mike, did you really buy those spec B's?

call me today.

 

why that heck would you want vtec on at all times? the vtec motor was designed to run vtec @ a certain rpm. those look like toyota cams. they only have 4 lobes. (from what I can see) [IMG][/IMG]

 

Spec B non-VTEC lobes ~= ITR stock VTEC lobes

 

ok, if that's true... then how come nobody rocks like a 2000rpm VTEC point on ITR cams?

 

SPEC B

250 (11.0) - 295 (12.0) - 250 (11.0) IN
250 (11.0) - 285 (12.0) - 250 (11.0) EX

 

mileage.

 

I don't think you can get the real toda vtec killer to idle under 2-5k rpms.....

NOT STREETABLE, period.