Just finished installing Skunk2 Coilovers with KYB AGXs...
The front is sitting beautifully, but the rear, at its lowest, is about stock height...
[I feel I saw a post once apon a time, been searching for a half hour, no luck....]
Yes, I put the right springs in the right place... Cut the bump stops in half as well... The only thing I can think of is that the 'shock pearch' isn't allowing the sleeve to sit low enough???.. Anyone have experiance with this?.. It was my first time ever lowering a car so it's definitley possible but doubtful that I messed something up...
No alignment yet...
Also.. (My theory)with the car sitting on such an angle(front fits one finger no more), is it adding to the rear bounce?(rear wheelwell is about 3 inches +)..
The front sticks great but the back seems extremely bouncy..with the AGX's on [3] stiffness setting, will this correct at all when the car is more level, or is it ONLY the high rates [I think they are like 500r]contributing?

 

Sorry I am not a coilover guy, but when I did my first set of springs I put the fronts on the back and it raised it a few inches....do skunk2's have a front and back?

 

I am thinking make sure you got the fronts on the fronts and the backs on the back......I put my skunk2 springs on backwards once and it sat and felt like that.....it just confused me because the rear spring is a larger diameter than the front spring....I dunno just a suggestions

 

No, thanks for responding...but like I mentioned, the springs are correct... as are the perches they are sitting on...... It's something else...........Yes, Skunk2 has front and back.


Modified by thatbluecrx at 8:06 AM 8/4/2005

 

the perch settings on the sleeves are not relative to each other. its expected youre going to be able to go lower on one end than the other. it happens i guess that the front can go lower than the rear.

you can buy shorter springs if you want to go lower. oh wait... only eibach sells those... and you could have bought them with your ground controls, but you didnt huh.... too bad.

or just raise your fronts to match your rear, and consider that the lowest you can go.

the 500's should be up front anyway. and yes, the skunk2 springs in their coilover kit are way too stiff.

btw, did you run out of threads to lower your adjustable spring perch, or is the cup on the shock getting in the way of lowering it any further?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the perch settings on the sleeves are not relative to each other. its expected youre going to be able to go lower on one end than the other. it happens i guess that the front can go lower than the rear.

you can buy shorter springs if you want to go lower. oh wait... only eibach sells those... and you could have bought them with your ground controls, but you didnt huh.... too bad.

or just raise your fronts to match your rear, and consider that the lowest you can go.

the 500's should be up front anyway. and yes, the skunk2 springs in their coilover kit are way too stiff.

btw, did you run out of threads to lower your adjustable spring perch, or is the cup on the shock getting in the way of lowering it any further?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Thatbluecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only thing I can think of is that the 'shock pearch' isn't allowing the sleeve to sit low enough???.. Anyone have experiance with this?.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh this is what we call... Ignorant? yea... sweet..
For starters regardless of spring rate, wether the rears are 500 or 7,000, that is where they are supposed to be, do you read?
Sigh, please if you don't have anything helpful, don't bother posting it... Shorter springs? Lol, you obviously are just being ignorant considering they are half the length of stock.. like I said man, the KYBs perch on the shock body that the sleeves sit into isn't allowing the locking pearches to screw all the way down. I don't know why I still post on this site.. some people are so lame. ... if anyone that has a clue wants to post please do I'd appreciate it.


Modified by thatbluecrx at 8:45 AM 8/4/2005

 

i'm not sure i'm picturing it right (actually some pics would really help) but i sorta had similar problems i guess. now i'm using illuminas with ground control, and the eibach springs that came in the set, which are also prolly almost half the length of the stock spring. when i reassembled everything, i threaded the perch all the way up so that the spring was actually under compression....not just floating in the assembly. when i put the car down on the ground, i realized that my rear was at about stock height. so i put it back up on jackstands, threaded the collars down as to drop the car, which it did, but then the springs aren't under any compression. i didn't like that set-up, and i still wanted the back lower and the springs under compression, so the only thing to do from there is get LONGER springs, or lengthen the upper shock mounts....i ended up modifying the upper mounts.

 

you have no idea...

im serious man. first of all, my point was that you made a bad choice in buying skunk2 coilovers. its cheaply designed and its no surprise the ride heights arent working out.

second point. you can buy shorter springs from eibach through ground control. yes, shorter springs. they sell in inch increments in the 2.5" inner diameter springs. also any spring rate you wish. and theyll actually be accurate, unlike skunk2 giving very nominal rates which arent accurate.

third. the stiffer springs go up front. the "500's".

lastly, how did you run out of space to lower the collar? did you run out of threads, or are there threads you cant get to because the shock cup is in the way. ive heard of ppl cutting out the shock cup in order to get it a bit lower.

dude, dont ******* complain. im slapping you in the face because you made a bad choice in buying skunk2 product. now im trying to help you. take it or leave it.


Modified by Tyson at 10:27 AM 8/4/2005

 

Lol, you are out of your mind man... Please don't post in here anymore...

You haven't answered one single thing I asked. All you've done is bash Skunk2 and suck GC's *****. I don't care how shitty Skunk2 is, I don't care how amazing GC is, that is 100% irrelivant, get over it!!!!!!!!!

Basically I answered my own question by assuming its because the cup on the shock doesn't allow the sleeve to be lowered...


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you have no idea...
im serious man. first of all, my point was that you made a bad choice in buying skunk2 coilovers. its cheaply designed and its no surprise the ride heights arent working out.
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1st point.. pointless and irrelivant. I'm sure GC will fit deeper in my shocks.. :sigh:

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second point. you can buy shorter springs from eibach through ground control. yes, shorter springs. they sell in inch increments in the 2.5" inner diameter springs. also any spring rate you wish. and theyll actually be accurate, unlike skunk2 giving very nominal rates which arent accurate.
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2nd point.. pointless we all know what GC offers, thanks. Thats all I need is a shorter more unloaded spring.


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third. the stiffer springs go up front. the "500's".
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3rd point... pointless...Yea that must be why my rear didn't lower... it's real easy, the front springs are 008s and the rears are 006s, pretty hard to mess that up when its written on the spring. thanks.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
dude, dont ******* complain. im slapping you in the face because you made a bad choice in buying skunk2 product. now im trying to help you. take it or leave it.
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My only complaint is how lame some people can be... I simply asked why my rear didn't lower and you ranted and ranted about Skunk2 sucking. Congradulations on being a douchebag!
Slapping me in the face? Get a life forum thug.........


The only thing you have a point about is that they are stiff as ****.



Modified by thatbluecrx at 3:05 PM 8/4/2005

 

good luck with that.

 

thanks


fyi I exchanged my rear shocks for illuminas. It'll allow the sleeve to sit lower in the cup thus dropping the car more. I called Skunk2, the rear rates are 350 and the fronts are 450. They don't recommend KYB's they say either Konis or Tokico.

anyway I hear your concern, I understand what you are saying and I don't want this to be a war... thanks for your input

 

since youre using kyb's up front as well, you may want to look out for this. if it can happen on ground controls, it could happen on skunk2s.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1329430

 

so guess what... turns out I figured out the issue after a little tinkering. It has nothing to do with Skunk2. or the KYB's. It was the OEM Dust Cover bottoming out on the shock body. The reason the ride was so harsh was because I wasn't even on my springs. The dust cover couldn't slide over the wider KYB shock body and caused it to bottom out... I'm not going to lie at all, the ride feels better then stock did, I would never in a million years say it is too stiff.
I'm blowing it all apart again tomorrow, and figuring out a way to make a custom Dust cover. probably going to homedepot or somesort to buy a rubber/plastic sleeve.
&lt; happy.

 

oh yeah, dont bother with the dust cover. you really dont need it. use a spare steering rack boot if you really care...