B16 AC tips\info\brackets
alright. Im looking for a way to use my AC in my b16 CRX. AC works FINE in the CRX. so Taking it out is out of the question. I live in FL. AC is a must have.
anyways.
I was looking at the Hasport AC bracket, Its REALLY expensive. and It can use both the 2 diffrent Compressors. so thats a plus.
So I was looking at Jdmshit.com and they have the HCP EF AC bracket. but according to Jdmshit.com it can only use Sandan Compressors.
HASPORT=175+shipping.
HCP=105 SHIPPED
Ive also herd about using a DELSOL ac bracket, no thanks, I really dont want to go thru the trouble of Drilling, Tapping, and all that ****, and it falling off a week later.
I already have Hasport Billet Mounts. It came as a package deal with my b16. so using any other motor mounts is out of the question.
anyways.
I was looking at the Hasport AC bracket, Its REALLY expensive. and It can use both the 2 diffrent Compressors. so thats a plus.
So I was looking at Jdmshit.com and they have the HCP EF AC bracket. but according to Jdmshit.com it can only use Sandan Compressors.
HASPORT=175+shipping.
HCP=105 SHIPPED
Ive also herd about using a DELSOL ac bracket, no thanks, I really dont want to go thru the trouble of Drilling, Tapping, and all that ****, and it falling off a week later.
I already have Hasport Billet Mounts. It came as a package deal with my b16. so using any other motor mounts is out of the question.
Well man i really dont know what else you want to know. It seems you have already researched and found all your options
I thought the delsol bracket was a direct bolt on. It bolts to a bseries block but uses a dstyle a/c compressor
I thought the delsol bracket was a direct bolt on. It bolts to a bseries block but uses a dstyle a/c compressor
If you have a sandan compressor on your car then you should buy the hcp. If you dont you should buy the hasport. I bought the hasport and it's good. Too bad my compressor is seized.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by michaelOlson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you have a sandan compressor on your car then you should buy the hcp. If you dont you should buy the hasport. I bought the hasport and it's good. Too bad my compressor is seized.</TD></TR></TABLE>
will the HCP work with Hasport motor mounts????
will the HCP work with Hasport motor mounts????
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What I did was adapted the stock B16 bracket
to work with the Sanden compressor using Hasport motor mounts..

The front bolts,top and bottom bolt right up and the pulleys are
aligned as well.
For the rear bolt,I ground the bracket flat,Drilled and tapped a hole
Then added a third bolt,A fourth bolt could be added but I did not see it as necessary:

The triangle represents the area I ground..
I also had to make a small dent in the cross-member for clearance.
This was relatively easy and best of all it was FREE..
to work with the Sanden compressor using Hasport motor mounts..

The front bolts,top and bottom bolt right up and the pulleys are
aligned as well.
For the rear bolt,I ground the bracket flat,Drilled and tapped a hole
Then added a third bolt,A fourth bolt could be added but I did not see it as necessary:

The triangle represents the area I ground..
I also had to make a small dent in the cross-member for clearance.
This was relatively easy and best of all it was FREE..
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will the HCP work with Hasport motor mounts????</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, I have that exact setup. The only problem is that one of the the A/C lines touches the fan on the left side. Replace that fan with a slimline fan and you are good to go.
will the HCP work with Hasport motor mounts????</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, I have that exact setup. The only problem is that one of the the A/C lines touches the fan on the left side. Replace that fan with a slimline fan and you are good to go.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OldSkoolEF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, I have that exact setup. The only problem is that one of the the A/C lines touches the fan on the left side. Replace that fan with a slimline fan and you are good to go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks, the info I needed. thanks bro.
Thanks, the info I needed. thanks bro.
I had the hasport setup on my matsushita. Worked great until the bracket cracked, but I had a weird one that kept cracking. had their mounts too, all the other pieces eventually began to fail, and I didn' thave the money to replace it all at once so I ditched my a/c for now.
Whenever I have $ to redo it all at once, I'll be chillin in the summer, for now I lose water weight when stuck in traffic.
Whenever I have $ to redo it all at once, I'll be chillin in the summer, for now I lose water weight when stuck in traffic.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16_madman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had the hasport setup on my matsushita. Worked great until the bracket cracked, but I had a weird one that kept cracking. had their mounts too, all the other pieces eventually began to fail, and I didn' thave the money to replace it all at once so I ditched my a/c for now.
Whenever I have $ to redo it all at once, I'll be chillin in the summer, for now I lose water weight when stuck in traffic.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I thought there was Life Time warrenty on them.
It cracked even though it was Billet Alum? Im confused.
Whenever I have $ to redo it all at once, I'll be chillin in the summer, for now I lose water weight when stuck in traffic.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I thought there was Life Time warrenty on them.
It cracked even though it was Billet Alum? Im confused.
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B16_madman:
I put the Hasport a/c bracket on a friends car
that was running a Matsushiti and had an issue with the lines
hitting the bracket in one certain spot.
I ended up grinding on it too
As shown here in red:

I would imagine if I had not cut a little off where it was binding
it might have cracked as well..
I put the Hasport a/c bracket on a friends car
that was running a Matsushiti and had an issue with the lines
hitting the bracket in one certain spot.
I ended up grinding on it too
As shown here in red:

I would imagine if I had not cut a little off where it was binding
it might have cracked as well..
I've got a Matsushitty compressor and the stock bracket hack isn't close to working. I could buy another compressor (Sanden, but my Matsu is still good) and get new lines OR buy the Hasport piece. Looks like brian g is going to get my business again (I've got the billet mounts too).
k, heres an update guys. my b16 is in. AC compressor is bolted up. problem is I cant use the stock AC fan. Its a REALLY tight fit. Im using the stock header, so Im guessing thats a problem, but I cant get the fan in there.
What slim fans do you guys recommend?
But wouldnt I lose some ac cooling cause the slimfan wont have a shroud?
What slim fans do you guys recommend?
But wouldnt I lose some ac cooling cause the slimfan wont have a shroud?
very nice discussion here guys
well, this is one of the main things i was always comtemplating on when doing a B swap in an EF chassis. the AC.
since i'm still using my old D(untill i'll complete rebuilding the B motor), my plan is to clear the front end area first by changing the front cross member to let say a Full Race kit, then convert to half sized rad. this way you can have a bigger room in there. after all things done, slap the B in. with the half sized rad, you can always custom mount a slim ac condenser fan just behind the condenser itself. either an aftermarket header or probably a turbo kit will clear the area, and still AC will be intact.
for slim fans, check summitracing, there's plenty of them in there with different sizes and brands. i just don't know how well they perform but i guess it'll do it's job.
for this thread, very good info
well, this is one of the main things i was always comtemplating on when doing a B swap in an EF chassis. the AC.
since i'm still using my old D(untill i'll complete rebuilding the B motor), my plan is to clear the front end area first by changing the front cross member to let say a Full Race kit, then convert to half sized rad. this way you can have a bigger room in there. after all things done, slap the B in. with the half sized rad, you can always custom mount a slim ac condenser fan just behind the condenser itself. either an aftermarket header or probably a turbo kit will clear the area, and still AC will be intact.
for slim fans, check summitracing, there's plenty of them in there with different sizes and brands. i just don't know how well they perform but i guess it'll do it's job.
for this thread, very good info
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ef92b »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very nice discussion here guys
well, this is one of the main things i was always comtemplating on when doing a B swap in an EF chassis. the AC.
since i'm still using my old D(untill i'll complete rebuilding the B motor), my plan is to clear the front end area first by changing the front cross member to let say a Full Race kit, then convert to half sized rad. this way you can have a bigger room in there. after all things done, slap the B in. with the half sized rad, you can always custom mount a slim ac condenser fan just behind the condenser itself. either an aftermarket header or probably a turbo kit will clear the area, and still AC will be intact.
for slim fans, check summitracing, there's plenty of them in there with different sizes and brands. i just don't know how well they perform but i guess it'll do it's job.
for this thread, very good info
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thanx, I was thinkin of putting a half rad. but I didnt know that I can put a fan that close to the condenser. ****, Ill do that, screw the full rad.
well, this is one of the main things i was always comtemplating on when doing a B swap in an EF chassis. the AC.
since i'm still using my old D(untill i'll complete rebuilding the B motor), my plan is to clear the front end area first by changing the front cross member to let say a Full Race kit, then convert to half sized rad. this way you can have a bigger room in there. after all things done, slap the B in. with the half sized rad, you can always custom mount a slim ac condenser fan just behind the condenser itself. either an aftermarket header or probably a turbo kit will clear the area, and still AC will be intact.
for slim fans, check summitracing, there's plenty of them in there with different sizes and brands. i just don't know how well they perform but i guess it'll do it's job.
for this thread, very good info
</TD></TR></TABLE>thanx, I was thinkin of putting a half rad. but I didnt know that I can put a fan that close to the condenser. ****, Ill do that, screw the full rad.
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http://www.geocities.com/crxls18/ACmod.html
Cost, about $20 bux.</TD></TR></TABLE>
great info man! thanks for your input
http://www.geocities.com/crxls18/ACmod.html
Cost, about $20 bux.</TD></TR></TABLE>
great info man! thanks for your input
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great info man! thanks for your input
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No problem man...Just glad I can help.
great info man! thanks for your input
</TD></TR></TABLE>No problem man...Just glad I can help.
CRX T-SI: Have you used that method on your car, and will this clear the stock a/c fan and the full size radiator? He mentioned somethin on the article about hitting the charge pipe, I'm assuming on a all-motor app. there are no problems with clearances
Actuall that is my car...yes it rubs the charge pipe a little. I had a 2.25" charge pipe and it sits about 1/4" away but it does not do anything to the compressor.
I have a full size radiator, but I don't have A/C in my car any more. Before when I had a modified Starion I/C, that POS was not efficient and it made my car overheat, then my A/C compressor took a **** so I was like **** it...just ripe that baby out.
I regret it no...I regret it very much.
Turbo on an EF with A/C will not allow you to use the A/C fan on the regular position so you will have to move that baby in the front of the A/C condenser.
I have a full size radiator, but I don't have A/C in my car any more. Before when I had a modified Starion I/C, that POS was not efficient and it made my car overheat, then my A/C compressor took a **** so I was like **** it...just ripe that baby out.
I regret it no...I regret it very much.
Turbo on an EF with A/C will not allow you to use the A/C fan on the regular position so you will have to move that baby in the front of the A/C condenser.
I was thinking of converting the AC system from the stock R12 to R-134a and use a smaller A/C condenser such as the ones found in EKs to make more room. although i'm not sure yet if the EK's condenser fits in there. with the use of a half sized rad, then you can prolly make use of another slim fan mounted just behind the condenser.
i talked to my very reliable AC technician and he said it's perfectly fine since the R12 is a high pressure type while the R-134a is a low pressure type so as long as all your AC parts(evaporator, valves, lines, seals, drier/receiver replaced, etc.) will be cleaned/flushed to get rid of the old R12 refrigerants/oils/freon and ofcourse changing your stock R12 AC compressor in favor for a R-134a, such as those found with Toyota
corolla 2001 models (Denso, smaller in sizes)then that will be perfect. i know it's gonna add more to the cost(custom pipings, fabrications, etc) but i really need the AC badly.
i talked to my very reliable AC technician and he said it's perfectly fine since the R12 is a high pressure type while the R-134a is a low pressure type so as long as all your AC parts(evaporator, valves, lines, seals, drier/receiver replaced, etc.) will be cleaned/flushed to get rid of the old R12 refrigerants/oils/freon and ofcourse changing your stock R12 AC compressor in favor for a R-134a, such as those found with Toyota
corolla 2001 models (Denso, smaller in sizes)then that will be perfect. i know it's gonna add more to the cost(custom pipings, fabrications, etc) but i really need the AC badly.
Look as this asshat PMd me with,
90HFCrX (9:20 PM 8/23/2005): man dont be a ***** a crx was ment to be fast with a b16a not with ac
90HFCrX (9:20 PM 8/23/2005): man dont be a ***** a crx was ment to be fast with a b16a not with ac
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90HFCrX (9:20 PM 8/23/2005): man dont be a ***** a crx was ment to be fast with a b16a not with ac</TD></TR></TABLE>
90HFCrX (9:20 PM 8/23/2005): man dont be a ***** a crx was ment to be fast with a b16a not with ac</TD></TR></TABLE>



