Ok I have a 2000 Integra Type R. Right now it has a Jackson Racing Supercharger, 10psi Pulley, Comptech Intake, JDM Type R Header, Tanabe Cat back Exhaust, DSM 450 Injectors, and its tuned with Neptune. Well I am wondering what route you think i should go. I am pretty sure I want to get rid of the supercharger. Its not performing up to what i want it to. (I bought the car with it). My best time so far is just a couple 10ths faster then stock. So i have a few options:

1: I could keep the supercharger and by and Intercooler for it in hopes that it helps my Air Intake Temps alot. (there around 230 right now at full boost)

2: I can sell it and with the money buy a turbo kit. I talked to One of the top Tuners around here and he recommended going with a Small T3/T4 on it.

3: I'm sure this is what most of you will say. Build it N/A. But if i did this I Don't know what all to do to it and what would be the most bennificial. on of my friends told me to get ITB's.

I just wondering what would be the best way to go. i want the car to be good all around you know. Decent 1/4 mile times, Way good at Autocrossing and such, and still good for a daily driver.

Thanks for the imput.

 

keep the sc and get better tires and work on driving...how much whp are u putting down?

 

I have BFG Drag Radials that i use at the track. When i ran it at the track the first time i was untunned with stock tires. when i ran it the next time i was part tunned (not for boost). I had the drag radials too but I burnt up my clutch. I also have the new clutch sitting in my room. But i'm planning on running again in a couple weeks now that i am fully tunned with the tires and new clutch. hopeing it will help more. I didn't dyno tune it so I don't know what i'm putting down. We did a Street tune on it.

 

with good tires and a new clutch u should be a lot happier with ur setep. tuning is key, get on a dyno, its the only way you will know if everything is working right.

 

Seems like you should find onther tuner.

and as for being only slightly faster then a stock R... hrmm I have been in a S/Ced R and I know it would eat my slow as n/a R.

 

one of the best tunners around here did it. then the Best Tunner (aka Cortney Green) here took a look at the map before he converted it to Neptune. He said that it looked how it should and we wouldn't be able to get anymore power out of it. I don't know if anything else could be wrong with it. Unless something is wrong from when it got fixed from me over reving and bending the exhaust valves. I don't know.

 

Tune, Practice, Tune Practice and then once it's tuned to your liking practice some more. I've personally gotten a 14.5 @96 in the 1/4 and that is stock. With your setup you should be doing much better. Maybe a time slip could help us determine the issue.

 

bro with all that work .. if you best time is a couple seconds faster then stock .. then the issue is your driving not the car.

first learn how to drive it properly before you go changing stuff.

 

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there is no such thing as being able to street tune a car be feel and know what the car is doing right or wrong... if you dont take anything i say seriously take this.

IF Y OU DONT DYNO TUNE THAT CAR AND HAVE A PROFESSIONAL DO THE TUNNING YOU WILL HAVE NOTHING BUT BLOWN MOTORS AND CLUTCHES, you need to do stuff the right way bro.. other wise you are just throwing your money out the window.

IF YOUR GONNA DO IT, DO IT RIGHT
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well in my eyes you need to really figure out what you are wanting out of your R you say you want 1/4 mile time then say autocross and then daily? if you want all 3 it needs to be n/a honestly and autocross na is best for a itr and a ITR is not built for boost if you want to boost the hell out of it buy a gsr block and head and go from there dont waste money or time on a turbo kit cuz you will blow your itr motor if you want to put down real power

 

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Heres my time slips. the first was untunned and on street tires. the second is part tunned (not for boost) and on drag radials. I know part of it is mostly Driver error. i never said i was a good driver. and i'm trying to get better. But there is diffenitly something wrong. And the people who tunned my car are professionals. they knew what they were doing. I wouldn't have had them do it if I didn't know anything about them.

car 619 in the right lane is me


car 206 in the left lane is me



By the way this is in Utah. Two stock Type R's ran low 16s the same night.

 

2.3 & 2.5 is all about the driver.
and then your speeds are way off.
You should be At least 90+ In stock trim I was getting 14.7at 96mph. then my average was 15.0 at 94mph.

 

I'll post again in two weeks when i run with the new clutch and stuff. i'm hoping to get them lower. I wish the track would do another test and tune soon so i can get more practice. but there won't be one for another month.

 

#1 u need to get ur 60fts down. practice ur launches. #2 high elevation sucks

 

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Hmmm ... Rocky Mountain Raceway.
Probably at 4500' + above sea level.

Get NOS!

 

When I got a 14.5@96 I had a 2.3 60' I dont' really think it's your launches as much as it's your driving down the track. What are you shifting at? What's the elevation at the track. What are the conditions outside the nights you ran? The reason I ask is it seems like your getting off the line in the 2.3 run. Not bad but not great. From there everything goes to hell. Work on driving your car and shifting faster. You need to shift as fast as possible without doing the "money" shift. I bairly hit 4th at the end of the 1/4. For me elevation is my friend as my local track is about 35' above sea level. Just like i said practice, practice and then when you think your good practice some more. PM me if you have any more questions.

 

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You should have it dyno tuned. Then, once it is dyno tuned, do a "street" tune to work out any drivability issues. If you are looking to get more out of the blower, you should replace the header and cat. For a header you should go with one that has short primaries, such as the kamikaze header. I am a little curious about your intake temps. I know of other JRSC ITR's running 10psi, and their intake temps are around 200 without an intercooler.

 

keep supercharger and add turbo.. these 1/4 mile times are what you'd get with stock itr, so my suggestion is to get it tuned, but if you really want it to be fast, get turbocharger

 

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WTF?

 

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WTF?</TD></TR></TABLE>

joking on that one.. but it can be done and probably work really good.

 

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Soemone posted pics of their turbo/super setup in the Forced Induction forum several months ago. I stumbled upon it a while back.

Also done on the old Lancia HF rally cars of the Group B era.

 

I've never run the 1/4 with my JRSCed R but i'm putting down 220 whp and i'm only at 5.5psi. I know it is way faster than stock. You absolutely HAVE to tune that thing right. Get it on a dyno because a street tune ain't gonna cut it with the JRSC..

 

Keep the jackson, not only does it sound amazing when you get on it, it's hella faster than stock. I'd try stickier tires and a new clutch.

 

Are those times not dog slow? my ITR with i/h/e and 17" wheels managed a best of 14.71 @94mph and i got a load of wheelspin in 1st. Isnt stock somewhere in the high 14/low 15s??
Another time my RSM (with Gsensor) recorded 14.62 @ 95mph but i'm not sure how accurate those thing are.

 

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yup https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1293497