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Old Jul 30, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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what oil do you guys use in your type r motors?

I'm currently using castrol syntec 5w30.

I only drive my car in the summer and I generally don't drive too hard.

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Old Jul 30, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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You will be fine w/ the oil your currently using
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Old Jul 30, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevescivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what oil is best to protect engine from excessive heat</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fresh oil, no more than 1000 miles, then change the filter and oil.
Earlier if VTEC'd often. (Just Kidding)
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 06:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevescivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what oil do you guys use in your type r motors?

I'm currently using castrol syntec 5w30.

I only drive my car in the summer and I generally don't drive too hard.

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Summer driving != excessive heat

Your car could see 100 degrees hotter oil on the track than on the street. Mine does, anyway. A synthetic 5w30 is fine, and I'll run 5w30 or 10w30 in those cases. I used to track my car with 5w30 Mobil1.

I now run Mobil1 15w50 because of my "excessive heat."

Look for ACEA A3 rating. That rating means it has a good viscosity at 150C, and some other good stuff (I'm not an expert).

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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevescivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what oil do you guys use in your type r motors?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mobil 1 5W30. But I track my car.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevescivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm currently using castrol syntec 5w30.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's fine. In fact, any name-brand 5W30 full synthetic oil should be just fine. And if you're not tracking your car, some folks will tell you that conventional (non-synthetic) oil is good enough, although synthetic does protect better against extreme heat, as well as flowing better in cold conditions. I use synthetic oil in all my cars, not just the ones that are tracked.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevescivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I only drive my car in the summer and I generally don't drive too hard.</TD></TR></TABLE>

As Chris noted, that does not count as excessive heat. Heck, it's not really excessive heat even if you drive on the street in the desert Southwest, let alone Canada.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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i was looking up castrol's website ratings on their syntec engine oils and the 5w30 syntec oil i'm using is rated for ACEA A1 and A5 but not A3.

Is this of any concern or should I switch my oil to 10w40 so I meet the A3 requirements?

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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevescivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was looking up castrol's website ratings on their syntec engine oils and the 5w30 syntec oil i'm using is rated for ACEA A1 and A5 but not A3.

Is this of any concern or should I switch my oil to 10w40 so I meet the A3 requirements?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you were driving on the track a lot, you might be concerned. Or you might just look in your user manual where it says you can use 5w30 for all driving conditions (*cough* nsxtasy).

Another option might be to find the GERMAN Castrol Syntec 0w30, which is ACEA A3. Google (or H-T search) for German Castrol Syntec for more info, a lot of people run it.

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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Amsoil 10w-30.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevescivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was looking up castrol's website ratings on their syntec engine oils and the 5w30 syntec oil i'm using is rated for ACEA A1 and A5 but not A3.

Is this of any concern</TD></TR></TABLE>

No.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevescivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">should I switch my oil to 10w40 so I meet the A3 requirements?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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FYI: you all should be using 10w30. per honda.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 01:07 AM
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I dont have an ITR but I do have a B18C in my hatch and I live in the desert right now over in Albuquerque, New Mexico. I dont drive my car everyday but when I do drive which is more on the weekends Im a little rough with it. I use Castrol Syntec 0w30 the German made stuff and like it. I didnt burn a drop of oil that I noticed anyways during the last 3000 miles before I changed it. Its good stuff and I would recommend it to anyone.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egtwincam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FYI: you all should be using 10w30. per honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're joking, right? Because the owner's manual and the service manual from Honda for the ITR in North America both specify that 5W30 is preferred at all temperatures. 10W30 is also acceptable at temperatures above freezing, but 5W30 is preferred at those temperatures as well as colder.

You can do a search and find lots and lots of previous discussions, including people who choose to use other viscosities for lots of reasons, and people's guesses about why they recommend 5W30 here, and info about viscosities that are recommended overseas - stuff that seems to get repeat posted every time someone starts at new topic about oil - but that's the official Honda recommendation for the ITR in North America.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 06:12 AM
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 06:23 AM
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egtwincam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FYI: you all should be using 10w30. per honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I read that and laughed. I guess we know who has never even opened their car hood. It tells you the viscosity to use on the damn oil cap.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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I read that and laughed. I guess we know who has never even opened their car hood. It tells you the viscosity to use on the damn oil cap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And I'm using 10W60, so what are you sayin?

My car gunna dunn blowed up?
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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I live in a mid climate and use 5w40 all year round. I use Bardalhs Syntronic and never ever have to top up between oil changes.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You're joking, right? Because the owner's manual and the service manual from Honda for the ITR in North America both specify that 5W30 is preferred at all temperatures. 10W30 is also acceptable at temperatures above freezing, but 5W30 is preferred at those temperatures as well as colder.

You can do a search and find lots and lots of previous discussions, including people who choose to use other viscosities for lots of reasons, and people's guesses about why they recommend 5W30 here, and info about viscosities that are recommended overseas - stuff that seems to get repeat posted every time someone starts at new topic about oil - but that's the official Honda recommendation for the ITR in North America.
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My bad guys...ITR's are still suppose to use 5w30. Its only updated by honda to use 10w30 for 93-97 delsol dohc vtec and 93-96 prelude dohc vtec....
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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I use motul 5-w40 for a while now and my track oil consumption has redused to one third with respect to Mobil 1( 15-w50) .

Way to go Motul.

I wouldn`t go by what honda says in all cases as they make money on parts , So it is fair to assume they Want your car to blow up.
For example:

I remember studying material science at school and we could design a a fender
that rusts in 3 years and anothe rone with slight difference in composition with no cost difference that would stand a life time of salt water.

Any comments
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mehdiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldn`t go by what honda says in all cases as they make money on parts , So it is fair to assume they Want your car to blow up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's the most ridiculous thing I've seen posted on h-t.com in quite a while. Sheesh.

Do you forget that they provide warranties on the cars? Original warranties, extended warranties, certified used car warranties, etc... which gives them a clear incentive to NOT want your car to "blow up", as you put it , and to give you advice on how to maintain your car so that it is as reliable as possible. And that's in addition to their concern for reliability and their reputation, which also gives them a similar incentive.

We can all be thankful that Honda does a better job of making their cars reliable then most other brands.

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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egtwincam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My bad guys...ITR's are still suppose to use 5w30. Its only updated by honda to use 10w30 for 93-97 delsol dohc vtec and 93-96 prelude dohc vtec....</TD></TR></TABLE>

10W30 is also the recommended viscosity for the NSX.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's the most ridiculous thing I've seen posted on h-t.com in quite a while. Sheesh.

Do you forget that they provide warranties on the cars? Original warranties, extended warranties, certified used car warranties, etc... which gives them a clear incentive to NOT want your car to "blow up", as you put it , and to give you advice on how to maintain your car so that it is as reliable as possible. And that's in addition to their concern for reliability and their reputation, which also gives them a similar incentive.

We can all be thankful that Honda does a better job of making their cars reliable then most other brands.

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Remember here in america, Honda is considered a seperate company to acura. Honda's warranty is **** and they care about your happiness, Acura on the other hand cares about money and not rep and will not take care of your ***.

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10W30 is also the recommended viscosity for the NSX.
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Thats the original oil for that car.. when the car's about 10 yrs old, Honda will say it needs 10w30.

Hey! Has anyone done oil analysis on different oil brands in their car to see which one actually protects the best?
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egtwincam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Remember here in america, Honda is considered a seperate company to acura.</TD></TR></TABLE>

By whom? Not by me. Not by most people, either, I don't think.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egtwincam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda's warranty is **** and they care about your happiness, Acura on the other hand cares about money and not rep and will not take care of your ***. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's totally different from my experience (and I have owned several Honda automobiles as well as several Acura automobiles). My experiences with both, including corporate-level policies (whether something is covered under warranty) as well as dealer-level policies and operations (such as service) have been consistently positive. My Acura dealer has consistently positive levels of customer satisfaction (just as my Honda dealer does), and this is true of others I know who go to the same dealership. I have also had consistently positive service from a couple of other Acura dealers that I have used on occasion. Just as I have from the Honda dealerships I have used.

Perhaps you just have a "bad" dealership (one particular dealership which does not treat its customers as well as others). Or perhaps you may have displayed a negative attitude in dealings with your dealership that has discouraged them from offering the level of service that they normally provide to their other customers. I've heard plenty of cases in which people walk into a dealership demanding things that are unreasonable. As with any business dealings between a customer and a vendor, there are ways to get good service, and there are ways to avoid getting good service. (Most of which fall along the lines of the old saw, "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.) And again, some dealers are simply better than others when it comes to providing service.

Incidentally, Honda provides a better warranty on its Acura Division cars (50K miles or 4 years, whichever comes first) than its Honda Division cars (36K miles or 3 years).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egtwincam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats the original oil for that car.. when the car's about 10 yrs old, Honda will say it needs 10w30. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not sure what your point is. 10W30 is recommended for the 2005 NSX just as it was for the 1991 NSX.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's the most ridiculous thing I've seen posted on h-t.com in quite a while. Sheesh.

Do you forget that they provide warranties on the cars? Original warranties, extended warranties, certified used car warranties, etc... which gives them a clear incentive to NOT want your car to "blow up", as you put it , and to give you advice on how to maintain your car so that it is as reliable as possible. And that's in addition to their concern for reliability and their reputation, which also gives them a similar incentive.

We can all be thankful that Honda does a better job of making their cars reliable then most other brands.

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buddy ,

All I did was to give u an educated inside information as I am an automotive parts design engineer . i.e I tend to meet alot of people who make money in this field
and I tell you guys, parts is where they make their money from.

Otherwise , Automakers could only pay min. wage by making parts that last long.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mehdiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All I did was to give u an educated inside information as I am an automotive parts design engineer . i.e I tend to meet alot of people who make money in this field and I tell you guys, parts is where they make their money from.

Otherwise , Automakers could only pay min. wage by making parts that last long.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What you are claiming - that automakers design their cars to "blow up" - is still absolutely ridiculous. Regardless of whatever pseudo-credentials you want to toss around. (Unless you work for GM, in which case allegations of trying to make cars fall apart are totally believable. )
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