like the title says guys, anyone have any pics of this installed on their car. especially a type R? yes i know i should "Search", but i am having a problem with my computer, it wont allow me to open up links. TIA

 

Water would be misted into the intake tube.

 

What he said.

 

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what exactly is the purpose of this? i am confused, that sounds almost dangerous?

 

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If you dont know the purpose, then why are you getting one? It lowers intake temperatures. Supercharges produce alot of heat, and at high boost levels it may be needed to cool the intake temps; either by water/alcohol injection or intercooled intake manifold for roots blowers. With the water injection its important to only use distilled water.

 

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A friend of mine has devised a hydrogen generator in his turbo Chrysler minivan. Helped out his mileage a bit, but has to keep replacing the rods and battery acid. With respect to the water injection, alcohol would seem ideal. But what would I know.

 

You know, I always wondered why it wasn't marketed as an alcohol injection system. Is there something more to it than that for using alcohol?

 

Frankly I forget if alcohol has a higher heat of vaporization (doubt it, in hindsight) or not, but at least its combustible!

 

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but where does it go after that, cuz i know for a fact that you cant just be shooting water into the intake manifold. wont it blow up the motor? i do know why its used, just wanted to see peoples setups if they had it, cuz i am think of buying it, or try to devise my own.

 

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Sure you can!
Just a matter of how much and under what conditions.

Instead of asking in the ITR forum, how about asking here:
https://honda-tech.com/zeroforum?id=16

Or for that matter, check the Jackson Racing supercharger web page or forums on their site.

Frankly I personally have found that some thing called gogle works fairly well (misspelled on purpose).


Modified by zygspeed at 11:21 PM 7/30/2005

 

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What exactly is your application? Why are you looking into this system? The Pic I provided was directly from the PDF install manual for the water injection kit. Do you actually have a JRSC ITR and know nothing about forced induction, your car, etc? Or do you have a N/A car and actually think this is a "performance mod" for your car?

 

http://www.jacksonracing.com/g...0.pdf

 

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What exactly is your application? Why are you looking into this system? The Pic I provided was directly from the PDF install manual for the water injection kit. Do you actually have a JRSC ITR and know nothing about forced induction, your car, etc? Or do you have a N/A car and actually think this is a "performance mod" for your car? </TD></TR></TABLE>

i have a 96 spec jdm itr motor, with a second gen JRSC kit on it, from a 99-00 civic si. i didnt think that spraying water in the intake manifold would be a good thing, i thought it may acutally travel in an dout of the SCr, and dissapte heat from the intake manifold. sorry for thinking the more logical way, rather then throw water into the engine. i am ignorant in the knowledge of the water injection kit, thus the basis for this thread?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> http://www.jacksonracing.com/g...0.pdf </TD></TR></TABLE>

It's a Jackson racing authorized option for a JRSC.
Did you even check the link above?

 

if you read my original post, i said that i cant open up links on my computer?????

 

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but where does it go after that, cuz i know for a fact that you cant just be shooting water into the intake manifold. wont it blow up the motor? i do know why its used, just wanted to see peoples setups if they had it, cuz i am think of buying it, or try to devise my own.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Shooting liquid water into your intake tube is a bad idea.. but water exists in different states, steam etc. when it sees high temp/pressure. ie the conditions in your intake manifold/combustion chamber.

I'm assuming once it reaches the actual combustion chamber under these conditions, it's no longer water.. perhaps it exists as a vapor, and is broken down into Hydrogen/Oxygen..

I believe it's main purpose is to remove heat from the system..

 

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Shooting liquid water into your intake tube is a bad idea.. but water exists in different states, steam etc. when it sees high temp/pressure. ie the conditions in your intake manifold/combustion chamber.

I'm assuming once it reaches the actual combustion chamber under these conditions, it's no longer water.. perhaps it exists as a vapor, and is broken down into Hydrogen/Oxygen..

I believe it's main purpose is to remove heat from the system..</TD></TR></TABLE>

i understand now how it works thanks to your explaination, but i was just under the impression that it would flow throughout the supercharger taking heat with it. but sometimes i jump to conclusions too quickly just to have the question answered. i am always looking to expand my knowledge, and like i said i would have opened the link but i cant, not too computer savy either. i need to reboot it i think. now, does anyone have pix of the kit installed on their engine or their friends engines. and yes i know i need to capitalize, but im lazy. cuz you type r guys will be on my case about it, if i say the wrong thing.

 

How much boost are you running on that s/c, and why do you think you need this?

 

Yeah, this isn't necessary unless you're upping the boost a bit (10lbs or over? something like that).

 

How much boost are you running on that s/c, and why do you think you need this?


i have the CRV crank pulley on the motor right now, so it should be about 10 if not not mistaken, when i had this on my b16 it used to hit 11 sometimes during the winter and then slowly drop to a steady 9 at like 7k in every gear.

 

anyone?

 

Anyone what?

 

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Hydrogen and oxygen explode rather easily to create water. If you could reproduce those conditions, and break water down to hydrogen/oxygen gas, you could get rid of the gasoline and just run water. You'd be a genius, filthy rich, you'd put 99% of the petroleum companies (and middle east) out of business, and all of our cars and power plants would be pollution free.

FunctionMotoroing is my hero! Hip hip hooray!



...but back on-topic, it's likely some of it has indeed evaporated into water vapor before it gets into the combustion chamber, but as soon as it gets into the combustion chamber, the water and gas that's been injected will all evaporate during compression and ignition. At this point, the water acts a bit like an inert gas, doing nothing, but up until that time it is absorbing a lot of heat. The temps are lower in the combustion chamber because of the water injection and its evaporation through that process.

-Chirs

 

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did you even read the thread????