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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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whats better to get? i heard with cold air intake if water gets up in there your fucked? whats that mean dont drive in the rain? or just not a puddle if u see one? haha thanks
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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aem has a bypass valve for their cai's....it keeps the water out... it kinda depends on the type of climate where you live... some people get more hp out of a short ram, and some get more from cai's...
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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u will be fine will be fine in the rain just dont submerg ur filter in the water, by the way when water gets inside ur engine its called hydrolocking
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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yeah i live in Maine short air intake? and what one would make the engine louder?
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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its not short air, its a short ram, i just got my aem short ram the other day and its pretty loud, i think short rams are louder
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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for god sakes search! There are 74 different threads about this same topic. That said - I live in Seattle (rain land) and have never had any problems with my CAI. Just don't drive through the big puddles or go hydroplaining.
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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it'll be fine as long as u dunt submerge it in water
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Old Jul 30, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Yeah i live in Washington too and i have never had any probs with my cai, just dont drive through any rivers and you will be fine.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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im gon get a short ram just cuz it looks cool in my engine bay.,...hahahahahaha...im not expecting to be fast abnways...im trying to get a new car as soon as possibler....**** my accord!!!!....(but i love it sooo much )
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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yea the only way water can get sucked up into your intake is if the whole filter is submerged in water. its kinda like if you put a straw at the surface of a liquid and tilt it. it wont suck in the water (unless you suck like a mad man) until the whole open end of the straw isnt able to suck ne more air, only liquid. you feel me?
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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nice description
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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I feel you.

Get a cold air intake and an air bypass valve. That's what I'm doing right now.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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I have an Injen CAI, I've recently converted to short ram configuration because:

1. I didn't want the possibility hydrolocking the car in a puddle. I never had problems, but it still bothered me.

2. I didn't like having to take the bumper cover off to clean/check the filter. Makes a rather large job out of something small.

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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tyro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have an Injen CAI, I've recently converted to short ram configuration because:

1. I didn't want the possibility hydrolocking the car in a puddle. I never had problems, but it still bothered me.

2. I didn't like having to take the bumper cover off to clean/check the filter. Makes a rather large job out of something small. </TD></TR></TABLE>

um...just take the splash guard off y0000...get at it from the wheel well
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fw190bvi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">um...just take the splash guard off y0000...get at it from the wheel well</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wish I could with a 99 sedan, but it isn't that easy as the splash guard covers from the bumper through the wheelwell as a single assembly. It actually takes less effort to remove the bumper cover.

The butt dyno indicates zero difference between short ram and cold air..

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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egzo04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i live in Maine short air intake? and what one would make the engine louder?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you live in maine, get a 2 peice cold air intake. In the winter, use cold air because you will get more power (from the cooler air), in the summer, take off the extention and convert to short ram.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by abijahs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea the only way water can get sucked up into your intake is if the whole filter is submerged in water. its kinda like if you put a straw at the surface of a liquid and tilt it. it wont suck in the water (unless you suck like a mad man) until the whole open end of the straw isnt able to suck ne more air, only liquid. you feel me?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true. I've hydrolocked from hydroplaning across a huge *** puddle.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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Short ram air is loud when reved, but not noticeable if you go easy. Cold Air Intake seems to respond to your right foot slower due to the length. But, we are only talking about street use, not much mods right? I would go with V2 if you have money, or Injen which is thicker pipe, or AEM which is only $75 shipped on ebay for brand name, or tons of immitations for lot less. But before considering the water, think about all the dirt you will be sucking into the engine as the filter mesh is less dense. Wait, we all seen this thread right?
And with this mod, you lose some low end torque. Honda did make OEM as the result of performance test and found the best combination for power and fuel efficiency. Well, this was from my friend in Honda R&D.....
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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I have a short ram in my accord and my sis has a cai in her civic, I think mine sounds alot better. I say short ram...
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cambopheonix56 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you live in maine, get a 2 peice cold air intake. In the winter, use cold air because you will get more power (from the cooler air), in the summer, take off the extention and convert to short ram.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you even think before you say something? Let me simplify what you just said: Use the CAI in the winter cause you'll get even colder air by moving the filter out of the engine bay. But in the summer when the air is warmer outside, convert to a short ram (which has the filter in the engine bay). That makes absolutely no sense, to have the short ram when it gets warmer! If anything you would want the CAI more in the summer time, because the temperature outside the engine bay will be cooler than in the bay. Please think just a bit before you say anything!
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zumiez007 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Do you even think before you say something? Let me simplify what you just said: Use the CAI in the winter cause you'll get even colder air by moving the filter out of the engine bay. But in the summer when the air is warmer outside, convert to a short ram (which has the filter in the engine bay). That makes absolutely no sense, to have the short ram when it gets warmer! If anything you would want the CAI more in the summer time, because the temperature outside the engine bay will be cooler than in the bay. Please think just a bit before you say anything!</TD></TR></TABLE>

1) it always will be cooler outside the engine bay then inside of it

2)You will lose top-end power with a CAI, because the length of the pipe, so i am sayin try to compensate for the length of the pipe by drawing in cooler air. Its pointless to do that in the summer time.
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