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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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Default H22A Integra? ANyone done it? Ups and down? Any pics???

Im trying to get some info on putting an H22A in an integra mainly a DC.
what are the ups and downs of it? I found a good deal on one, and im thinkin about doing it.

Anyone have any pics of an h22a in an integra?

Also is it possible to still keep ac and power steering?
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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I have a H22 motor in my 4Dr. Integra. I love it.
The good thing is that it will pull your car hard.
The bad thing is you can't really autocross or take fast corners.

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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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p/s is easy to keep but ac you're gonna have to make a diff ac bracket.
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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any1 got pics of h22 swaps in an integra?
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2jdmteg05 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any1 got pics of h22 swaps in an integra?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Heres a local guy in AZ that did it in his teg..


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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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H22 in a DC ... just gotta paint the engine bay
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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I have this swap. You can keep PS by using mounts that allow it.
AC was not salvageable at the time, I had to take mine out.
I used HCP mounts and you can keep PS by using a 97+ prelude PS
pump, you can reuse the OEM integra main PS line. See if you can
find an LSD tranny, Big +

+'s
- Great TQ and HP gains
- TQ
- TQ
- Parts are widely available
- Great Bang for the buck (cost of motor)
- I don't care what ANYONE tells you, there is virtually no weight diff between my H22A and my B18
- LSD if you can find it
- Awesome baseline to build from

-'s
- Parts needed add up quickly
- Axles can be a PITA (depending on your halfshaft selection)
- Mine car is lowered 1.3" and the lowest point on my car right now are my downpipe and oilpan (to be fixed soon)
- New mounts are not option
- You will probably lose AC

Post up your questions if you have any.

Here's a pic of mine during this summer's "project"




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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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Nice!!!! looks clean. Is that a supercharger I see? or some crazy intake manifold???

I also heard about about the weight issue and some one said that as long as you have a spring rate setup to compensate the "difference in weight" even autocross is feasible. I havent seen any H22 hybrids out on the track but maybe someone on this site has and can comment on performance.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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I know it's a stupid question, but what car is the H22a engine from? Thanks
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newbieman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know it's a stupid question, but what car is the H22a engine from? Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

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holy ****
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newbieman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know it's a stupid question, but what car is the H22a engine from? Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

prelude. Specifically the latter ones from the 92-96 models ( don't remember specifically which one it started coming in ) and on the 97 and ups....
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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Mainly a<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newbieman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know it's a stupid question, but what car is the H22a engine from? Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE> Ill be nice. Mainly a Prelude but version show up in over seas cars. Like the Accord R. Very nice swap for USDM Accords.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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h22 is heavy and aftermarket support is you would also want to do some suspension mods for it to corner with any decency at all if you want it to still handle superbly then this engine is a if you want to go straight fast then so it basically comes down to what your plans are with the car. i like the k20 personally, not too heavy at all and makes good power. but more expensive.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdeadman
h22 is heavy and aftermarket support is you would also want to do some suspension mods for it to corner with any decency at all if you want it to still handle superbly then this engine is a if you want to go straight fast then
Care to explain your logic? Or maybe you have some facts to back this up ?

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Nice!!!! looks clean. Is that a supercharger I see? or some crazy intake manifold???

I also heard about about the weight issue and some one said that as long as you have a spring rate setup to compensate the "difference in weight" even autocross is feasible. I havent seen any H22 hybrids out on the track but maybe someone on this site has and can comment on performance.
It's a JRSC, all the fab work is done, going on first thing this spring (huge grin)

The hole weight issue/you have to upgrade your suspension thing is a myth ....

Originally Posted by b16hybridsol
everyone that said that the h22 is to heavy, or that its a very heavy motor, leave the thread, and as i read in a previous thread i would like you to punch yourself in the ***** many times for spreading false info.

I'm going to be a dick head here because for one I scaled my car about a month ago and found it to weigh 2452lbs with about a 70/30 weight distribution. And for 2, I'm so sick of hearing the weight arguement about the h22 from people that have never even seen an h22 swapped car. Well guess what, i drive one, and i'm hear to tell you that the rumors are way way way over exaderated

now before you start point figures at my numbers lets think about this. Sense my car is turbo'd i've added alot more weight to the front end than just the stock h22 would, so this is defenatly going to throw the weight ratio off. So lets see we've got.

(the front end, added weight)
the turbo, cast iron manifold, wastgate, intercooler, piping, power steering and i've also got a copper 3-core radiator which is slightly heavier than stock.

(the ***, taken away weight)
Now also take into consideration that i have no spare tire or jack, no rear bumper reinforcement, no back seats, no exhaust. hhmmm that 70/30 ratio is starting to sound like it could be equaled out doesn't it

I'll find the paper i wrote the exact weights at each corner down on, and put it up for you guys just to finally kill the in the car weight rumors.

and one last vent, you obviously didn;t search hard enough cause i think i've got about 6-7 threads about my car on here. see my sig for the main one

Originally Posted by b16hybridsol
alright guys, sorry it took so long but i found the paper i wrote my numbers on

left front corner: 815 lbs.
right front corner: 816 lbs.
left rear corner:439 lbs.
right rear corner 402 lbs.
for the grand total of: 2472 lbs.

which equates to a 66:34 front to rear weight ratio
HAHAHAHA TO ALL H22A HATERS,we finally have some proof


btw: i have sense taken out the full airbag system (passenger bag, all wiring, impact sensors, and srs module), full cruise control system, sound dampning material on the fire wall, and the passenger side tubular dash support. So now I've got some more weight off, I've got a few more things i want to get off and moved around, then i'll scale it again probably in a couple months


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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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biggest con i would think is that there is not as much support for h22s as far as aftermarket parts as there is for b series.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrdeadman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h22 is heavy and aftermarket support is you would also want to do some suspension mods for it to corner with any decency at all if you want it to still handle superbly then this engine is a if you want to go straight fast then so it basically comes down to what your plans are with the car. i like the k20 personally, not too heavy at all and makes good power. but more expensive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
an h22 is only ~70-80 lbs heavier than a b series.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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want support?? Get the Hasport EGH2 mounts.

People have a lot bad things to say about H22's but most of them never had 1.

I've had H22 in my 4 Dr. GSR
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by simon98h22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It's a JRSC, all the fab work is done, going on first thing this spring (huge grin)

The hole weight issue/you have to upgrade your suspension thing is a myth ....
Modified by simon98h22 at 3:26 AM 7/27/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sweet!! BTW thanks for clearing that up. One more question, would the same apply to a civic hatch or a CRX? or would there be an issue then?
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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I'm not sure, only platform I've worked on is the DC, I've "heard" of civics doing a SC'ed H22, never seen one though. Should pull nice.

To get back to the original topic, I love my H22A teg, blast to drive and leaves a lot of surprised faces
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solk1dd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">want support?? Get the Hasport EGH2 mounts. </TD></TR></TABLE>
what does that have to do with aftermarket parts support?
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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this month's issue of sport compact car has a crx with an h22a and full coilovers. hasport built it and they now have mounts for the crx h22 conversion, only bad part is engine is a little too big for the compartment so they had to "strategically" dent the firewall and a few other places, but it slid right in.
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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sweeet, thanks for all the info.
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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How much work was involved to get the JRSC to fit? And what mounts are you using?
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack Master &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much work was involved to get the JRSC to fit? And what mounts are you using? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm using HCP mounts. The clearance you get on the driver's side is crucial, as it's where the bracket off the SC is located.

I had to get a custom plate done for the MC, I upgraded my MC to a GSR to get the 1" bore as opposed to the 15/16" of the RS one. The new resevoir will be remote mounted. As you can see here, we had to grind a bit off the SC mounting plate to allow clearance for one of the hard lines. We need to tap a new hole for the 4th support bolt, no biggie either.





We had to relocate the brake proportional valve and redoe all the hard lines. Not a huge deal. After that we needed to grind here and there and everything plopped right in.

My main concern was hood clearance and we ended up having a ton.


Finished product will look something like this.



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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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damn, that's tight. Literally
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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well my boy got tha jdm h22 type s motor in his teg and that **** pulls soo nasty wit jus i/h/e and skunk2 p28. b4 i blew my motor we raced an i was runnin my car on 8psi an he would hold up dead even with me until half way through 3rd. advantage he had was that lsd tranny i give it mad props an now he's gonna boost it with a greddy kit on 6psi. my car was pullin mid 13s so jus imagine the possibilities...
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