have heard good things about red stuff pads and was going to buy them, and i figure if the yellow stuff pads werent that much more to just get them. but i cant find them anywhere! all the sites if ind them in are not US sites.


anyone know?

 

First off, I have never heard anything good about EBC pads, only bad. I would go with porterfield for street/autox and carbotech for track. Aslo, I'm not sure but I think the yellow stuff pads are a track compound, and any track compound pad is a NO for street use. Street pads are designed to heat up quickly to provide good braking response, but have lower temperature tolerances than a track pad and will experience brake fade in a track setting. Track pads take a long time to heat up to work properly, but can handle the higher brake temperatures of racing. Because they heat up slowly they can be dangerous on the street.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by polishrifle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First off, I have never heard anything good about EBC pads, only bad. I would go with porterfield for street/autox and carbotech for track. Aslo, I'm not sure but I think the yellow stuff pads are a track compound, and any track compound pad is a NO for street use. Street pads are designed to heat up quickly to provide good braking response, but have lower temperature tolerances than a track pad and will experience brake fade in a track setting. Track pads take a long time to heat up to work properly, but can handle the higher brake temperatures of racing. Because they heat up slowly they can be dangerous on the street.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by polishrifle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First off, I have never heard anything good about EBC pads, only bad. I would go with porterfield for street/autox and carbotech for track. Aslo, I'm not sure but I think the yellow stuff pads are a track compound, and any track compound pad is a NO for street use. Street pads are designed to heat up quickly to provide good braking response, but have lower temperature tolerances than a track pad and will experience brake fade in a track setting. Track pads take a long time to heat up to work properly, but can handle the higher brake temperatures of racing. Because they heat up slowly they can be dangerous on the street.</TD></TR></TABLE>


geez how slowly do they take to work in the cold? i would think they would still be better than track? also i never really heard anything bad about ebc "red stuff" pads, but i guess i dont know a lot of people who brake hard.

where can i get porterfield pads at? also, the red stuff pads are rated at 800* Celsius, which i think would never fade?


so where can i get a pad for street use, but that also will not fade during racing. i just put brand new pads/rotors/calipers on my car and they are warped all ready. i need some brakes i can beat!

 

Porterfield pads can be purchased from their website. Axxis Ultimate pads are good too. Cobalt friction sells a few different kinds of pads, but not porterfield or carbotech.

Another big reason not to use street pads on the track is that they will be gone in one day, they are not designed to take that kind of abuse and will wear away in no time. Any person who frequents the track will have two sets of pads, one for street, and one for track. There really is not a pad that will do double duty.

Another thing you should consider is using some good brake fluid. I use Ate Super Blue on my car, great stuff.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by polishrifle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Porterfield pads can be purchased from their website. Axxis Ultimate pads are good too. Cobalt friction sells a few different kinds of pads, but not porterfield or carbotech.

Another big reason not to use street pads on the track is that they will be gone in one day, they are not designed to take that kind of abuse and will wear away in no time. Any person who frequents the track will have two sets of pads, one for street, and one for track. There really is not a pad that will do double duty.

Another thing you should consider is using some good brake fluid. I use Ate Super Blue on my car, great stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Thanks for the good info, i have recently put in some dot 4 that has a pretty good boiling point on it, until i can afford something better. before the fluid would get so hot the pedal would go to the floor and wouldnt stop for crap.

what pad should i get that is for street but can take some serious abuse? i go out once in a while and the brakes fad after two minutes or about 7 good brakes from 70 mph+ going into a corner.


i guess i cant use a track pad becuase i cant afford to have it worn down later on. i wanted the ebc pads becuase they said they have low wear, noise, and a high operating temperature.


i am going to look more into the porterfield or hawks pads.


thanks.

 

oh i forgot i already tried the porterfield website, i cant find pads for a 1993 integra. well at least not through that search thing they have i dont know how else to get them.

 

Like I said before, no pad can pull double duty. Any street pad will smolder to oblivion on the track and any track pad will not stop you well on the street. I know people who have tried to use a track pad on the street and have been scared at times because their brakes suck unless they are hot, and it takes a lot longer to get them there than you think. My advise, don't short change yourself, get two sets of pads, you will regret it later if you don't. It is not worth the money you save to try and make one set of pads work for both applications.

Oh and by the way, they have the pads you need on that website, it is just hard to find it.

Porterfield R4-S 1993 ACURA Integra AP409 $ 99.95 AP374 $ 69.95

The first number is for the front and the second is rear. These are for the R4-S Pads, which are the street ones (S for street). The R4 coumpound is for race, and the R4-E is for endurance racing. And I have heard some good things about Hawk pads as well. But the people I know and trust (including myself) swear by porterfield for street pads. One is an automotive engineer, and the other has been building Hondas for over a decade.

And when a company says "low fade resistance" or any BS like that, it is more of a marketing ploy than a fact. Even if it does have better fade resistance, better than what? Most likely the pad they compare it to is a stock pad, and not their competition. Many companies that sell any sort of product do this kind of stuff, they prey on the gullable and the non experts. The tornado is a good example, the concept is completly valid, but the way it is applied is not effective at all.

Anyway, keep the questions coming.

 

I normally just read the info and don’t post much, but since I have some helpful info, I decided to post it for others.

It looks like Polishrifle has some good info about pads but is not familiar with the current EBC product.

I have some experience with the EBC Yellow so I am passing it on here. The Yellow Stuff is now a new compound, which they started selling earlier this year and works really well.

It is a track pad that wears very slowly and handles the temperatures of track use. The friction level is good and I have not had any fade on my Integra, even during 95 degree days running 6 x 25 minute track sessions.

The great thing about these pads is that they work just fine when cold with good friction level similar to a street pad. When they get hot the friction level goes up even higher.

They also do not wear down the rotors very much when used on the street or track.
I was planning on using them to drive to the tracks, drive on the track, then drive home and remove them when I got home. I actually leave them on most of the time (I’m lazy), even when driving on the street. After thousands of street miles and many track events, they are only about half warn!

If you want a pad that will take track heat and still work when cold without eating your rotors, this is the best pad I have tried. Actually, it is the only pad that I have found so far that will work on the track and street.
If you are just driving the car on the street then there are other more suitable choices as Polishrifle pointed out.

I tried running the Green Stuff pads on the track and they could not handle the heat. War very fast and faded. They work fine for the street though.

I have heard that the EBC Red stuff works well on the track but wears somewhat fast. I do not have any experience with the Red pads though.

I purchased my yellow stuff pads from http://www.perfectbrakes.com which if I remember correctly is in Ohio.
A friend of mine hooked me up with a 25% off discount code for this web site. J

 

DO NOT BUY EBC PADS.......
they have a tendancy to crack(personal experience) among other things.
have heard nothing but bad things about them also.
a good set of pads are ferroda

 

only way youll find out is actually buy and useing it, dont just go by what other people say.I went to the perfectbrakes.com and like chilton22 said ebc came out with newly formulated brake pads and better performance.

 

I have ran my EBC yellow stuff pads really hard, especially on the track and there is no signs of cracking or delaminating what so ever.

The current EBC product is working quite well for me.

I have had another brand of pads delaminate on me but not the EBC's.

 

I run EBC Green Stuff pads on Brembo Cross Drilled/Slotted fronts with no problems.