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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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Hey guys, I have a '00 Honda Accord EX sedan 5spd.... it has 15" x 6" wheels as standard. I was thinking of "upgrading" to 17" x 7" wheels. The problem is I am not sure what I need to do to allow for this kind of swap.

http://www.adrwheels.com/wheels/?sfID1=12&sfID2=41

I am looking at these wheels for now (and as an example) and it says it has an offset of 35mm. What does that mean? I didn't lower the car and I don't plan to. I may not even by any wheels (depending on what I have to do to fit 17" wheels on the car). Can somebody give me a little help here? The goal is just to make my car look a little sportier. I want to add a Honda spoiler (small one with brake light), maybe some 17" wheels, and possibly also some tint. I already have a xenon kit ($300+) I bought for the car that works / looks awesome. My stereo will finally be in and installed [and finished] Sunday. Once I get past the subtle looks and "sporty" additions I think I will also want to tighten up the handling some too.

17" wheels (maybe)
tint (maybe)
xenon kit (done)
spoiler
tighten up handling

Sound good?

If I go with 17" wheels do I have to use low profile tires?? They look nice, but I deliver pizza so I need form to follow function... I have to be prepared for any kind of road surface. I think I'll get snow tires for the 15" wheels and put those on in the winter time, assuming I don't have to mod my car to fit 17" wheels... Thanks for the help guys.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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17"s fit no problem and I beleive +35 is the correct offset. offset is where the wheel accually mounts the the rim in comparison to the center of the wheel .. a 0 offset will mount in the middle .. + offsets will be mounted more towards the inside .. as for the tires .. your supposed to keep the over-all whell & tire combo diameter of the stock wheels .. so if you gain 2" in rim .. your gonna loose 2" in tire side wall. I personally like to plus size the tires an extra size and get some extra rubber and fill the wheel wells better ..
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 04:31 AM
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get 18's...look so much better. i sed 25 series tires and it didnt change my speedo.

though, a suggestion, regardless of the wheels you get..go w/lightweight. bigger wheels will put a hurtin on your gas mileage.. it did mine.
and i wish i would have know that or else I wuld have went w/lightweight..worth the money in the long run i say.

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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 05:38 AM
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I DO recommend 17" wheels. 18's are rough riding because there's not much tire, and 19's are possible, but ride quality and cost make it not worth it unless its a show car. For 17" wheels, 225/45/17 is the exact same tire height as stock wheels and tires. (25.1 inches) If you feel like doing the math...

195mm width divided by 25.4 = 7.67" wide

7.67" width times (.)65 = 5.0 inch sidewall height

5.0 times 2 = 10 inches

plus your 15" rim = 25" overall height

for a new tire, just plug in the numbers in place of the bold ones.

Here's a pic of a 17" ICW wheel with 225/45/17 Pirelli pZero's Hope this helps.

http://www.afaccord.com/hartcord.jpg
http://www.afaccord.com/hartcord2.jpg
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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Awesome thanks so much for your help guys. The wheels I was looking at are 17" x 7" but I've also seen 17" x 7.5" - and the offset is always a different number. How do I know if a wheel is considered as "lightweight" or not? Do they list the weights or just what the wheel is made of? If I buy a 17" x 7" wheel then I should be able to fit a 225/45/17 tire on it? Thanks again for all your help.
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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its how its made and what its made of depicts if its lightweight..and lightweight wheels cost more and its always specified if they are lightweight or not.

and as far as riding rough..
I my 96 accord has h&r lowering springs (around 2") and i have 225/25/18 tires and the ride is fine. granted, there is a slight difference in how they feel vs stock..but not to spine jarring diff. you can definetly feel the road better..and road noise w/the wider tires is much more evident..but for a stock suspension, man i think youd be very suprised still how comfy your car would be w/18's. i was expecting it to be horrid..but its fine

a site that i went visited to check out how wheels looked on accords was http://www.accordracing.com..in the 5th gen section theyve got tons of modded (or riced) accords w/17-19" wheels. 19's are awesome but if you have to have a happy medium..18's man.

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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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I looked around on that site you posted but it seems everybody has either 18" or 19" wheels. On top of that, most of the Accords are coupes and they are all "decked-out". I want my Accord to stay as stock looking as possible... I was looking for Honda 17" wheels but they all seem to be 5-lugs (mine are 4-lugs each) and not quite the style I am looking for.

I think I'm definitely going to get 17" wheels, 18" wheels seem to draw too much attention to my car. What do you guys think? 17" or 18" rims? The 17" rims with 225/45/17 tires are a very close match to my 15" rims with 195/65/15 tires... The 15" wheels do 807 rev/mi while the 17" wheels do 808 rev/mi. The 18" wheels with the best fitted tires are a few more revolutions off... I'm not sure what to do... I don't race, I just want a sportier look and better handling too (I may look into parts for that later on). I appreciate your help guys.

Here is a side view of my car:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/...l.jpg


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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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The correct tire size for retaining the same overall diameter is 215/45/17. 225/45/17 will be a slightly wider, slightly taller tire. The difference isn't much, so it won't be a big deal either way.

I went from 195/65/15 to 215/45/17 and honestly haven't noticed much difference in ride quality. (And the roads in my area suck big, fat, hairy *****.)
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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I used some online wheel calculator the other day, it showed that going from 195/65/15 tires to 225/45/17 tires would yield the least difference in overall size. The 15" wheels turn 807 rev/mi while the 17" wheels turn 808 rev/mi (using the tire sizes specified above). That is a very small difference and should keep my speedometer just about as accurate with the 17" wheels as it was with the 15" wheels.

I like the look of ADR wheels and found three styles that I am seriously considering:

http://www.adrwheels.com/wheel...2=169

http://www.adrwheels.com/wheels/?sfID1=12&sfID2=41

http://www.adrwheels.com/wheel...2=163

I'm not sure which style to go with. I want something nice but subtle, sporty but not over the top. I'm not sure which finish to go with and I don't know which wheels are lightweight and which aren't.... 18" wheels seem too showy for me and might look stupid on my sedan, but I don't know. What do you guys think?

Also, I want to get dry/wet sport tires for the 17" wheels and winter tires for the 15" wheels. I'm not sure which brands are best for tires, or which types, or what the ratings mean, etc. Any help is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!

One last thing - aside from looks, what other benefits come from using larger wheels thank stock? By keeping the overall diameter (wheel + tire) the same, will I notice any difference between the 15" wheels and the 17" wheels?
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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You'll need the 48+ offset. 45-48 offsets are the best for a 6th gen accord
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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think offset is 44 for 6th gen.. i have 215/45/17 and i cringe everytime i hit a pothole here in sunny Quebec.. but the wider ur tire is, the more it'll follow the groves laid by heavy traffic. personaly, i think 225's arent as flush as 215's as they come out more out of each wheelwell. but it's up 2 u dude.. i like the adr 8's u got in mind... i have 9 spoke Kazera's myself got it at tirerack.com 4 cheap on yoko's avs es 100's
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DrumProdigy83 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used some online wheel calculator the other day, it showed that going from 195/65/15 tires to 225/45/17 tires would yield the least difference in overall size. The 15" wheels turn 807 rev/mi while the 17" wheels turn 808 rev/mi (using the tire sizes specified above). That is a very small difference and should keep my speedometer just about as accurate with the 17" wheels as it was with the 15" wheels.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I used TireRack's info for each brand/model of tire, which includes rotations per mile. Using the information listed there, 215/45/17 came the closest to the same size as the factory michelins. Either way... even if the rotations/mile changed from 807 to 820, the difference is negligible.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Do you guys prefer 17" or 18" wheels? and why? I would think 18" is more for show... but it seems a lot of people have been suggesting 18" wheels. I just don't want to regret my choice... not much difference from 15" to 17" wheels.

If I do go with 18" rims instead, I guess I'd go with 225/40/18 tires? I have been using this calculator:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html

I like the way the wheels look on the TL, CL, Type S (TL and CL) etc, and those I believe are 17" wheels. I think 17" wheels will look sporty and still be conservative enough to not draw attention to thieves... 18" is only one more inch though... ::sigh:: I am just going to dig up as many pics as I can of Honda/Acura cars with 17" and 18" wheels...

I decided to go with the 18" wheels, provided I don't have to modify my car at all to fit them. What offset do I need for 18" wheels? I want to get these tires:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...ace=1

I will use them for my everyday driving in the fall, spring, and summer - and in the winter I will use my 15" stock wheels with snow tires. 225/40-18 will be approx the same size overall diameter as the 15" wheels, and the rubber will only be 3.5" from edge of wheel to edge of tire - versus 5" for the 15" wheels and 4" for the 17" wheels. I'm still looking around and looking at pics of Honda/Acura and I think 18" wheels look a little better.


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