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What happens to TOE when the rear is lower?

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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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Default What happens to TOE when the rear is lower?

I know the toe changes when you raise/lower the rear on the typical Honda rear trailing arm setup, but I cannot figure out which way it goes (in vs. out) so I could use small ride height adjustments at the track to alter my rear toe.

Does anybody know for sure whether toe goes in or out when you lower the rear?
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Default Re: What happens to TOE when the rear is lower? (fireant)

rear of a s2000, toe goes out as car was lowered. this i learned from watching on alignment rack
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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Default Re: What happens to TOE when the rear is lower? (Nishant)

Sorry, I should be more specific... this is for a CRX, and Im sure it could be different on a S2K, but good to know.

Anyone?
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Default Re: What happens to TOE when the rear is lower? (fireant)

get the toe adjusters that are sperical bearing type, i saw wicked tuning selling them, also suspension teniques,spc eibach, this way you can set the alignment on the rack and do a half turn to adjust settings then turn half turn back so alignment is right for street, here is a link to what im talking about
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Default Re: What happens to TOE when the rear is lower? (Crx Jimmy)

That's a better, yet more expensive idea. Since raising the car up will also reduce the camber.
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 06:32 AM
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Default Re: What happens to TOE when the rear is lower? (suspendedHatch)

Thanks for the product suggestions, but I really just have a technical question.

What happens to the toe when the suspension is compressed in the rear?
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Default Re: What happens to TOE when the rear is lower? (fireant)

Try jacking up the rear of the car and measuring the distance between some point on the outer part of the lower control arm and the front pivot on the trailing arm. then do it with the car on the ground. i'm not sure how much the movement of the upper control arm affects this because i've been in the sun all weekend, but with those 2 points on opposing sides of the hub, it might give you some idea. I went outside to look at this and figured when the control arm was horizontal, the movement could only go in or out, but then my tired brain said the front pivot was higher than the lca....so, uhhhhh...good luck....and somebody's got to know this
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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Default Re: What happens to TOE when the rear is lower? (chjkingme)

I'm pretty sure that it toes out when you lift it, toes in when you lower it. I know you can find the answer in another post because I've seen it. If I wanted to find out for myself, I'd set up the alignment strings and test it.
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