Hi,

I know nobody can know for sure but do you think you could give me an estimate on how much it would cost to get an Accord to be a mid 13 second to low 14 second car reliably?

Thank you.

 

turbo baby!

 

depends on 4 or 6 cyl?

4 cyl, yeah turbo

6 cyl, spray or supercharger, with tranny kit/torque converter.

 

reliably? ..... hmmmmm............ turbo+engine built-up+clutch+brakes+axles+PERFECT tune+dropping some weight, amd lots and lots of luck=========reliable 13 sec car......price? around 10-15++++large

unreliable? just change pistons/rods with forged units, brace top of cylinders provide enough fuel/spark, built tranny/axles and slap on 150 shot and keep your fingers crossed, still looking around 7-10 grand

or if you really want to run 13 sec, but dont have cash, do this

chop the car to the bare frame, just leave engine/wheeles/steering wheel and one seat....cut off roof, trunk, windshield, hood, fenders, all doors, etc, with that kind of power/weight ratio, you should run easy 13s'maybe even less and top speeds well over 150+ this is probably the most reliable way to get 13 sec out of our cars with no mods at all.hehehehhheheheh

 

I've never really looked at the accord as good platform for a drag car... but you would definately need to drop about $15,000 into motor and suspension work. Its not going to happen if you keep it all motor, gotta go turbo. Anyone could make an all-motor crx go 13 seconds, but its quite different to get a 2800lb. car down a track in 13 seconds without boost.

 

Okay, thanks. So getting a CRX to run mid 13's to low 14's would be much easier than an Accord?

Thanks.

 

power to weight ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

cool

 

Sorry I'm an idiot so do you think you could explain more what you mean?

Thank you.

 

if you have 300 hp in a 1500lbs car as opposed to 500 hp in a 3000lbs car the lighter car with less hp will win. It takes less power to move a lighter object at the same speed if not faster.

Think of it in terms of a anything big, say a train. Weights ungodly amount and have 1000's of hp, and yet can barely get moving b/c of the weight. Yet a 200hp motorcycle can accelerate extremely fast, b/c it has only 400lbs to move. does this help?

 

i love my accord..but come on guys.. 7-10 grand to get into the 13's??
you can buy a car thats already in the 13's or even low 14's for that much

but i cant say a whole lot w/out getting flame, so spend as much as you like. its all in a matter of taste.

 

2001accord is right. Its all about Power-to-Weight. The only way to stay above the line is more power. If you have a 300 HP 1500 LBs Car, you'd need atleast a 600HP 3000 LBS car. THen you need to add the percentages of HP loss at the wheels, friction, and the ever hated wheel spin.

 

Yeah definately helps. I think I'll get the CRX.

 

I am working with Geoff at Full Race to have a traction bar designed for 98-02 accords, to help us who are making decent power. Its in its infancy stage but with any luck it will put into production for all 6th gen owners.

mac_24_seven - True it takes a "decent" amount of money to get fast, but what car doesn't?? H22 swap or boosted F22/23 all about the same money, and will yeild low 14's maybe high 13's given the driver. Even if you have a fast "cookie cutter" car (ie evo, gsr, civic, wrx, etc) you see fast ones all the time. When was the last time you got schooled by an Accord?????? Faces would be priceless!!!

 

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you can buy a car thats already in the 13's or even low 14's for that much
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if you do it right and do it yourself it can be done for a lot cheaper than that

but it IS Power-Weight that makes the difference....eventhough thats kinda common knowledge(imo)

 

I definately like the body style of the Accord better but if a CRX is better for racing because it's lighter, that's what I'll get...

 

its all personal preference..........can't beat the styling of the 6 gen accords though, unless the new civic concept gets put into production , that thing is sweet

 

friend of mine is anticipating mid 14's this comming week with his new clutch installed. Full interior, power steering 4dr EX f22b1 stock internals with stock exhaust.

And its been on boost for a few months now still reliable still his daily driver. Less than 1k spent not counting clutch for turbo setup thus far.

And he raped my h22a accord too.

 

Hmmm...

I might stick with the Accord then if it can run mid 14's. Mid 14's is fine by me...

 

ok i had a nice long reply but i wasnt logged in and it all got lost. so here is the short version.

im the one typerkoncept is talking about. spent around $1200 not including clutch. i wouldnt consider my car reliable and i wouldnt recommend it for anyone who isnt prepared for there car to break. but with some pistons i would think it would be pretty safe.

btw if you need 15k to get an accord in the low 14s you suck at life.


Modified by yardy8301 at 10:45 PM 7/17/2005

 

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And its been on boost for a few months now still reliable still his daily driver. Less than 1k spent not counting clutch for turbo setup thus far.

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tick, tick, B00M

Depends what year Accord.

H22 swap
+
DR's
+
65 shot nitrous
+
cold plugs
+
ignition retard maybe a few degrees
=
13's all day long.

 

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ok...if u like the styling, you can always strip EVERYTHING off the car, and i mean everything to the bare chassis, even eliminate those support beams inside doors, cut what you can without compromizing rigidity, reinforce what you can with lighteweight material, just leave light outside skin and reinforce inside door panel, dash, trunk hood with carbon fiber,get lexani windows, get super light wheels with mad slickies, evn install lightweight smaller capacity gas tank...and go for a ride...of course your car would be HIGHLY ILLEGAL AND NOT A STREET DRIVER and you would have to periodically straiten out the chassis from flexing...but i bet you can run low 14, maybe even 13s at the track, with just some basic boltons....
slap on a turbo and you got a beast... of course this would cost $$$$$ for all the custom work...but if you can do some welding, can mold carbon fiber among other things, got a lot of time and not worry about messing things up.............................i'm still waiting for somebody to go that extreme with our heavy 6th gen accords. but hey, at least you'd have pretty fast ride with that classic 6th gen body

 

if it blows up, at most $200 for another stock block and your back in business. ive been boosted for 9000miles no problem so far.

 

how much are you boosting?

 

I am turboed and I ran a 13.8 untuned. And recently because of my dumbass being untuned, I am rich and lean in different parts of the basemap and I am also detonating. I am sure I am low 13's once it is tuned. We'll see though. But of course turbo will definatley make it into mid 14's and then it depends on the type of prodcuts you bought for turbo and the quality of the tune!