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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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i know what purge welding is, just wondering what is the easiest/most efficient setup to do it? how is everyone else out there running the extra argon into the pipe? experiences with what works best and what doesn't?

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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 06:50 AM
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I'm interested in this as well. back side of my stainless welds look like poo.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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I had some aluminum plugs spun up on a lathe. Put a barbed fitting in one end.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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What about when you're doing a manifold etc. find a way to plug the flanges and put some Argon in there?
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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i'm more interested in know how everyone is running argon into it off the bottle. plugging the pipe is easy. is it just best to run a "T" off the regulator of the bottle to run the hose into the pipe? i'll probably just end up getting a kit or making something up.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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I just have a dedicated bottle setup for purging, also acts as a spare in case I run out. Has a regulator set to 10 or so and I usually just use masking tape to block off the ends of the tubing and punch a 1/4" sized hole in an end closest to where I'm welding so the argon has some place to get out and also kind of cools the backside of the weld a little bit better so the tape doesn't burn off.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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thanks for the input. i contacted miller, and they dont' sell any purge welding kits, but they had some links to companies that do.

http://www.arc-zone.com/catalog/web_store
http://www.dissolvo.com/index_welding.lasso
http://huntingdonfusion.com/HF...pid=1
http://www.intercononline.com/welding/welding.htm

i'll probably rig something up myself.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:34 AM
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Purging is easy...

use a splitter, or
another bottle, or
get one of the dual flowmeters so you have 2 meters on one bottle.

Then hook a hose to it.
Put the end of the hose into the pipe you're welding and tape up the ends with masking tape.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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just to bring this back up to the top to see if anyone has a picture.

I have been practicing with stainless piping but of course without back purge it looks like a bird took a dump inside my pipes..not good.

so, i looked at it and I think I can Tee off the flowmeter, have 1 hose to the 180SD like stock and 1 hose to whatever I'm welding. I guess then I would need just a valve on the line that goes to the piping so I can open/close and sort of regulate flow. Rather do that if it works then buy a new regulator.

What kind of hose do you guys use, rubber, copper? the pipes get DAMN hot, masking tape is ok and will not melt?

Anyone have pics? I tried the sites Aaron posted above but they all don't seem to work anymore.

**EDIT** I got one of the sites to work...interesting info, never thought of using aluminum tape..would work better then masking tape probably. I'll have to try this tomorrow night.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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I just use an S bottle for purge gas. T for the machine.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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i have a t setup for the regulator ready to install for my 180 sd. i'll take some pics and post a small writeup when i get it all set up and ready for action. i'm getting some pipe caps in different sizes to use instead of tape. they should work pretty good.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jays91DXhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about when you're doing a manifold etc. find a way to plug the flanges and put some Argon in there?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Put the hose in the end and tape it up with masking tape. It's done on 9 of 10 professionally made welds.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by weirRacing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm more interested in know how everyone is running argon into it off the bottle.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can buy dual regulator setups. It's basically one fitting to the bottle with a T on it to two separate flowmeters...and has a pressure guage in the middle of it. I don't know what they cost. You can also buy T's that you can screw two flowmeters into, or just get a Y off the flowmeter outlet and use the valves on the Y to regulate how much flow goes to each side.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Bump for an old post

I have tried everything I could think of and have found the cheapest best method (for me) for purge welding is fiberglass insulation. It costs next to nothing, doesnt burn/fume/etc and is cheap. Here are some pictures of my welds with it.

http://jg-fab.com/weld-pictures/DSC03359.JPG
http://jg-fab.com/weld-pictures/DSC03360.JPG
http://jg-fab.com/weld-pictures/DSC03364.JPG

-James
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