i found one of my old dyno sheets

setup:
b18a block
gsr crank
gsr eagle rods
je 12.5 to 1 pistons stock bore
top line bearings
type r oil pump

b16 head
stock ports
ferrea head package
skunk stage 3 cams with stock gears
rc 310 injectors
255 intank pump
vafc
dc jdm header through a N1 catback
type r intake manifold w/ type r throttle body

dont mind the jumpy curve. only made 3 pulls cause i was using the dyno for free. and i was having dizzy troubles. wouldnt go past 9-10 deg of timing at idle fully cranked.




Modified by cubish at 6:04 PM 7/12/2005


Modified by cubish at 10:03 PM 7/12/2005

 

car went 13.2@105 on street tires. full interior 94 dx hatch

 

Very nice numbers for stock head! Quarter mile time was quick too

 

nice! ..since when do b18a's have oil squirters from the factory?

 

nice numbers, but you don't have an ls/vtec since you are using a gsr crank.

 

nice track & dyno #s

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GOLDBERG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice! ..since when do b18a's have oil squirters from the factory?</TD></TR></TABLE>

What he said. Could dizzy problems be coming from the fact that you have an MSD cap not hooked up to a blaster coil?

 

ur revving that sucker out

are u really making peak power from 9600-10,800???

with no port work?

can u feel that crazy 20-30whp jump at 9600rpm?

 

Fix ur dizzy, trash the vafc for Crome, Uberdata or hondata & get that thing tuned

 

my bad about the oil squirters, i was mixing my new motor up with this. the coil wire was off for another reason im not that stupid. the car isnt even mine anymore.. dont really care if the new owner gets chrome or anything. mind you he is 16 and has no license yet so i doubt he is worried about that. its not revving to 10,800 if you look its in mph not rpm...its still a lsvtec no matter what crank i was using cause its a ls block. if i had a 92 or 95mm crank would it be a lsvtec, yes i think so...just thought i would post up this old graph i found laying around...its from 12/04

i just recently had a gsr motor fully built on spray, made 218 on motor and over 400 on spray. that went 11.1@125 it had a ls crank(so i guess it was a lsvtec)
i now have a built type r on boost and spray on aem. should have some dyno numbers up for that soon

 

What bore and compresion and size shot were you running on that crazy 400 horse nitrous motor? What octane of fuel also?

 

84mm 13 to 1 weisco pistons... was probably around 14 to 1.. head had flat valves and was milled. ran on c116 ran 11.1@125 with around 380-400hp. only had a 160 shot on it then. never got to run it with the full set up. ended up having a 200 shot direct port and an extra 80-90 shot dry on the intake pipe down by the air filter ended up with 483hp and 402 trq. i'll try to get a copy of that dyno sheet. looks crazy going from 160 something hp at around vtec and having it jump 300 hp instantly..and level off till 9500

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1215880

 

That is crazy. I have been considering putting a 100 shot DP on the motor in my sig. The only that worries me is the head gasket on the 86mm bore.

 

i was having head gasket issues a lot with the other set up and mine was only 84mm with around 13.5 to 1- 14 to 1 compression. mind you i was spraying a whole lot more than a 100 shot. the only way to find out is try it out.

 

what octane was this lsvtec on? any detonating or pingage?

 

it was on 110 sunoco gas. i tried stepping on it a few times on pump gas and it didnt like it too much.

 

must of ran like *** on pump gas then.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cubish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...its still a lsvtec no matter what crank i was using cause its a ls block. </TD></TR></TABLE>


<FONT SIZE="10">OK...</FONT>

<FONT SIZE="4">It is NOT an LSvtec...</FONT>

just like ketone pointed out, you are using a <FONT COLOR="red">GSR</FONT> crank and <FONT COLOR="red">GSR</FONT> spec rods. just because the donor block is from an LS doesnt mean its an "LSvtec". why do you think LSvtec engines have different powerband characteristics than GSR/ITR engines??? because they dont have an oil channel for vtec already built into the block....NO. its because the internals are different thus giving it a different rod/stroke ratio.

 

i understand your point, but think about it...say you put a 95 mm crank in a gsr motor is it still a gsr? if you put a ls crank in a b16 does it become a ls motor? i dont know why people like you guys have to stretch out stupid **** like this. you both understand what the set up is. and im very aware that its not the same as having a 89mm crank in there...so relax. there is more to the world than nit picking everyones threads on H-T. have a nice day!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cubish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i understand your point, but think about it...say you put a 95 mm crank in a gsr motor is it still a gsr? if you put a ls crank in a b16 does it become a ls motor? i dont know why people like you guys have to stretch out stupid **** like this. you both understand what the set up is. and im very aware that its not the same as having a 89mm crank in there...so relax. there is more to the world than nit picking everyones threads on H-T. have a nice day!</TD></TR></TABLE>

The point they're trying to make is simple. You posted saying that your motor is LS/VTEC. In truth, your motor is just a GSR bottom end. A true LSVTEC would have an LS crank which would be the same principle as putting a stroker kit in a motor. So really, YOU DON'T HAVE AN LSVTEC MOTOR!

What you have is calld a Poorman's ITR. GSR bottom end with a b16 head.

 

ok...im really done with this stupid argument. it makes no sence. you, i, and everyone else understands what i had. does it make any sence to sit here and argue about what to call it? now if i stated the post as 199hp gsr motor and started listing my mods...i would have you and everyone else saying" how is it a gsr if you have a ls block" so take it how it is...and im done with this

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cubish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok...im really done with this stupid argument. it makes no sence. you, i, and everyone else understands what i had. does it make any sence to sit here and argue about what to call it? now if i stated the post as 199hp gsr motor and started listing my mods...i would have you and everyone else saying" how is it a gsr if you have a ls block" so take it how it is...and im done with this</TD></TR></TABLE>

What you have is calld a Poorman's ITR. GSR bottom end with a b16 head.

 

who gives a **** good god. He has a motor that he listed mods for and a dyno graph.

 

nice setup!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Toadfart &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The point they're trying to make is simple. You posted saying that your motor is LS/VTEC. In truth, your motor is just a GSR bottom end. A true LSVTEC would have an LS crank which would be the same principle as putting a stroker kit in a motor. So really, YOU DON'T HAVE AN LSVTEC MOTOR!

What you have is calld a Poorman's ITR. GSR bottom end with a b16 head. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ban Toadfart for making people answer twice. Man, give the guy a break already. He can call it whatever the hell he wants if he has run 11.1 with it before. Call it a 406 small block for all I care. And to Cubish's point who in the hell calls thier tech43 B16's LSVTEC's?????????? Nobody because it is not an LS block. So there ARE two ways of looking at it.