gotta gsr tranny and b16 tranny want to put b16 gears in it both hydro trannys want to keep gsr fifth due to highway driving should i use all b16 1-4 or ??
also if i put the gsr gears in b16 tranny i heard it will become close to an ls tranny long as gears is this true
thanks for any help

 

oh yeah its going to be na itr thanks want short gears but not vtec on highway in 5th cruising

 

http://allmotorhonda.com/techp...s.htm

http://fatboyraceworks.com/gears/

Those should help you out

 

use b16 1-4 gears and gsr 5th gear for cruising.
also use the gears in pair(one form input/output shaft.)

 

id use the gsr 1-2 and 5 and b16 3-4.

 

ok thanks guys found out good info are the diffs different i thought ive heard (know here say isnt always true) b16s are weaker than gsr diffs

i think im gonna go with b16 134 and gsr 2 and 5th
thanks again

 

While its apart, put in a ITR LSD

Not sure if the ring gear/countershaft will match up with it though, I cant remember if they are the same between GSR/ITR and B16.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">While its apart, put in a ITR LSD

Not sure if the ring gear/countershaft will match up with it though, I cant remember if they are the same between GSR/ITR and B16.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yah you need to change the ring gear from the b16 to the itr/gsr ring gear i believe.

 

I say use the B16 1-4, GSR 5th and ITR 4.785 final and LSD (OEM or aftermarket).

Since the trans will be open, might as well, put the final gear and LSD.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DEMNTD1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say use the B16 1-4, GSR 5th and ITR 4.785 final and LSD (OEM or aftermarket).

Since the trans will be open, might as well, put the final gear and LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree, but LSD is approx another 350..as is the Final Drive.
some folks don't have an extra 700 layin around.. or even more with an aftermarket final drive like ATS.

 

yeah thanks guys i have and itr tranny that will be on my sleeved gsr motor just wanted something shorter than gsr for my daily thanks again

 

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i think im gonna go with b16 134 and gsr 2 and 5th
thanks again</TD></TR></TABLE> you have to use the 1-2 out of the same box as1st & 2nd gear is permently on the main shaft.

 

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No they're not. Once the 3/4 gears are pressed off the top of the input shaft they slide right off.

 

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huh??? i must have broke my gears when i took them off, cuz they slipped right off.

btw, this man is too poor to put in an lsd!

 

not to poor just have a bigger project

 

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No they're not. Once the 3/4 gears are pressed off the top of the input shaft they slide right off.</TD></TR></TABLE>



yes on the pinion shaft they slide off but on the main shaft they are cast onto the shaft.

 

Don't mess with first gear, they are all the same even LS. LS just has a 4.2 final drive. Just grab 2nd, 3rd and 4th from the B16 and throw them in the GSR tran. This way you have shorter gears and a stronger diff.

 

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yes on the pinion shaft they slide off but on the main shaft they are cast onto the shaft.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They are NOT cast into the shaft, donkey. How many transmissions have you rebuilt? Most final drive gear swaps (ATS, JDM ITR) require changing 1st gear.

 

obviously you have never really rebuit trannys. ive taken apart more than you ever will and i will gaurantee that 1st 2nd and reverse gears are permently cast onto the main shaft. go take a tranny apart and find out just how wrong you are

 

lol

 

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im confused about this, because i have changed all 5 gears in my gsr tranny to b16.

 

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I have rebuilt several, and just rebuilt my spare LS gearbox last week. You're an idiot. Maybe you should go read a helms? It even has specific instructions on removing all the gears from the mainshaft.

 

Clean your work space RJ. Its a mess!!!

 

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No ****... thats my dad's bench, he's a wreck!

 

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I have rebuilt several, and just rebuilt my spare LS gearbox last week. You're an idiot. Maybe you should go read a helms? It even has specific instructions on removing all the gears from the mainshaft.

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id love to see a copy of a helms tell you how to take the gears off the main shaft. im willing to bet it has instructions on how to take all the gears off the pinion or countershaft but not the main shaft. and for a quick reference for you the main shaft is the one that slides into the clutch.
now look at your nice little picture and tell me how youd pull 1st 2nd and reverse off of the mainshaft? and calling people names is one of the big reasons im leaving this sport after this season. to many people who dont know what the **** they are doing act like they are the end all. have a nice day and try to learn something new.