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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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alright, well I just finished my swap in my car, it was my first

and at high RPM, when I put it into gear in 2nd and 3rd it grinds.


now I've obviously heard of people saying that my tranny grinds, but I never had a faulty tranny before, I've grinded gears before with my stock d, but that was because I was improperly clutching.

anyways, if I drive my car like a normal citizen, it's fine

but above 6000 RPM, it will grind when I put it into 2, and 3rd gear


so.. how fucked am I here ? should I get rid of this tranny right away ?


It has a fresh bottle of Honda MTF in right now

should I ever bother putting in GM friction modified synchromesh ?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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try GM SYNCHROMESH FRICTION MODIFIED first and see it wont hurt to try and get the friction modified bottle not the regular one.it come in a bottle the shape of a regular oil bottle come not rounded like the regular synchromesh.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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you can try the Synchromesh,but you're only masking the problem.if it does cure the problem now,there's a good chance it will slowly redevelop over time.
if you are reasonably mechanically inclined,and have a Helm manual,you can tear down the tranny and inspect the synchro rings and sleeves.the rings aren't very expensive to replace,and if the other synchro components are still in good shape,you can fix your problem for around $100.
your other option is to sell the tranny for what you can get out of it,then put that towards another potentially damaged tranny.
Chris
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daniel-san84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It has a fresh bottle of Honda MTF in right now</TD></TR></TABLE>

Try putting the other bottle in first... Then check your clutch hydraulics before jumping to comclusions.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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yeah most trannies take just under 2litres not 1

i have the exact same problem with my y4b tranny (93 si).. d series.. grinds in 2nd and 3rd.. and while in high rpms in 3rd gear i can hear the tranny noise inside my car because my shifter becomes almost a speaker

theyre never long grinds.. more of a chirp grind.. pretty sure my trannys on its way out the door lol

anyone got a y4b to sell in ontario? (d16z6 in an si.. 93.. manual)
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Morning Call &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah most trannies take just under 2litres not 1

i have the exact same problem with my y4b tranny (93 si).. d series.. grinds in 2nd and 3rd.. and while in high rpms in 3rd gear i can hear the tranny noise inside my car because my shifter becomes almost a speaker

theyre never long grinds.. more of a chirp grind.. pretty sure my trannys on its way out the door lol

anyone got a y4b to sell in ontario? (d16z6 in an si.. 93.. manual)</TD></TR></TABLE>

sounds like your synchros are bad ...just have it changed out
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by INVALID &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you keep forgetting your screennames or what?</TD></TR></TABLE>


why do you say that?
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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might want to give gm trans fuild a try
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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By that I meant passwords.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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sounds like a first gen b16 tranny. ussually its the syncros i dont think theres much u can do with fluids and aditives, thats just from my experience. depending on how bad it is u might need a new set of syncros.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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I'm changing some synchros in my tranny Dan. Let me know if you'd require some assistance.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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sorry, this is my stock B18B1 tranny
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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ok, well I talked to the guy who sold me the tranny. and he basicly told me to go **** myself.

so is there anything I can do to try to get rid of the grind ? with out opening it.

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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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lol my cable tranny grinded... in 2nd,3rd,5th.... haha then one day i heard a pop, and well it didnt shift after that... i took the tranny down to find that i had cracked it open :D
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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damn...
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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you still haven't mentioned if you have confirmed shift linkage arrangement, clutch hydraulics, or tranny fluid level.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Check your shift linkage. 2nd and 3rd gear are on different synchros. Are you shifting "quickly" when above 6k? Try shifting a little slower. Do you have a short throw?
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