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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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just brought a ej coupe yesterday, i wasnt sure it the clutch was bad or the trans was bad.. shift fine into gear fine. but does not move, no grinds, when I press gas in gear the speedo goes up and car goes no where.. need help, im assuming its the clutch
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Does the car have axles going from the transmission to the hubs? The way you describe it, You accelerate and the speedo moves, thats weird because the speed sensor is in the transmission and that means your tranny is spinning fine. I would:
1)check to see if you have axles?
2)try moving in another gear.
3)try reverse.
If none of this stuff works remove your transmission. the problem is your final drive.
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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i have axles in, does not move in any gear any other input
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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so the speedometer goes up when you press the gas? and the car goes nowhere?
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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IT sounds like it is the final drive, that is the spur gear and pinion shaft. The spur gear is attached to the diff and the pinion is attached to a shaft, you are missing one of those two things. You could take out your passenger side axle, start your car and see if the diff is spinning. But either way you need to pull your tranny. There is one other option and that is if the tranny was rebuilt then the person doing the rebuild did not line up the forks. but either way you need a tear down. If the trannny is a D series then just buy another one for $50 LOL.
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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I think that if the spedo is moving the dif is moving. The gear for the spedo works with a gear on the dif. Maybe just a broken axle.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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no its not a broken axle, the car would move and there would be a massive grinding sound from the broken axles... If you dont know then dont post. The problem is at or near the final drive. if the sppedo is movign then the tranny is turning look in your car for the VSS look at where its located, the car wouldnt register spped if the tranny wasnt moving.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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clutch slippage
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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The car probably has an open diff. If you break an axle in an open diff car the trans. can't transfer power. It will take the path of least resistance (the broken axle). Thats why you get those awesome smokey one wheel burnouts. If the final drive is missing or broken then the diff wouldn't turn and the speedo wouldnt work. Those parts are required for the diff to spin. If YOU don't know then don't post!!! Its probably not clutch slippage cause the trans wouldn't spin then either.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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ok guys, lawnmower is 100% correct. it's NOT clutch slippage, because the speedo goes up.

the speedometer drive gear is part of the differential, so if the speedo goes up, the clutch is fine, the final drive is fine, and the diff is turning.

the problem lies between the differential and the hub, so it's definitely a broken axle.

good job noob

-Shawn
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LAWNMOWER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The car probably has an open diff. If you break an axle in an open diff car the trans. can't transfer power. It will take the path of least resistance (the broken axle). Thats why you get those awesome smokey one wheel burnouts. If the final drive is missing or broken then the diff wouldn't turn and the speedo wouldnt work. Those parts are required for the diff to spin. If YOU don't know then don't post!!! Its probably not clutch slippage cause the trans wouldn't spin then either.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Excellent post n00b
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ShadyEH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good job noob </TD></TR></TABLE>

hahaha
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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pretty good for a noob


hahaha
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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Dang this forum is really good to its nOObs.
Thanks guys!!!
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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man im a normal user and i still cant get into the good threads

Edit: nevermind i just had to make a post today SO HA
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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What is V8tec??? I bet you have a Mustang with DOHC VTEC badges.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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i have a 4.6 V8 Mustang GT and a B16c with a Stage Four Turbo in the trunk. Yea, i just connected the V8 to the front and the B16c to the back so its been converted to AWD. Its pretty nasty. I'm also spraying the V8 with a 200 shot and the B16c with a 50 to help the turbo spool.

The back end gets alittle loosey goosey when the Vtec kicks in but other than that its pretty mean. It's got the best of both worlds Import and Domestic
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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i wonder why fastrunner didn't post anymore? i guess it's because he was OWN3D!!!!!!!!!!!
muahahahahha lol!!11!!!one!!
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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I guess that works out well when the Ford half stays broken down 2 thirds of the time. You still have a quick turbo B16 Mustang..?!!?? Nothing like a good ol b16c
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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this coming from the guy who has a hatch that doesnt run
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Ok really go get a helms manual and stfu, do you see the creator of the thread saying anything, no, so whats the point of responding and dont sit there with your thumb up your @ss quoting people like Im wrong its not your tranny I gave a logical answer to the problem. The diff and final drive are about as close as Paris and Lyndsey Lohan and the short of it is the guy needs a rebuild.


Modified by fastrunner at 6:19 AM 7/13/2005
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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well if you knew anything you would know that Paris and Nicole aren't friends anymore. You should have said Paris and Lindsey Lohan if you were looking for someone who is friends with Paris still

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 06:23 AM
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ha ha, now this fastrunner guy's getting own3d by a guy with a mustang. what a douchebag. and even though i may have my thumb up my ***, i can still type correct information with one hand. something you're completely incapable of doing with both hands.

then you come back talking about paris and some other chicks from the entertainment world. you know paris and a differential are about as close as your face and my ***

if you want to learn to build transmissions, come to my shop and i'll explain it all to you.

bottom line:
if the speedometer is going up, then the speedometer drive gear is turning. this means the differential is turning, this means the final drive gear is turning, and that means the countershaft is turning. you obviously have never worked on a honda transmission before. and how is a logical explination saying that maybe his countershaft and final drive gear aren't there?????????

and the originator of the thread hasn't responded because he's probaly outside changing his broken axle right now

-Shawn

p.s. he could have a broken spider gear inside the diff, but i'd put .65 on a broken axle
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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It sounds like ShadyEH2 is a helms manual. HAHAHAHA!

BTW my hatch will run again Mustang boy so watch out
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastrunner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> dont sit there with your thumb up your @ss quoting people like Im wrong its not your tranny Modified by fastrunner at 6:19 AM 7/13/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ShadyEH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
bottom line:
if the speedometer is going up, then the speedometer drive gear is turning. this means the differential is turning, this means the final drive gear is turning, and that means the countershaft is turning. you obviously have never worked on a honda transmission before.
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That's right. Listen to him, fastjogger. The foot bone is connected to the leg bone. lol
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