i got a b16 swap done in my crx in feb, its all stock, no intake just a k&n on the throttle body stock crx dx exhaust system with a gutted cat, now im starting to loose my b16 fait. i was thinking if going with an h22 with B series tranny or maybe a gsr engine even maybe tought of building a b20vtec. i have some money to spend what can i do to the b16?? my friend who inspired me to buy a b16 used to have one that was stock and was hell of fast only thing he had was a chip with now rev limiter wich leaded to a blown engine. but that **** was fast.
my motor is good, it dont smoke but it dont seem as fast my friends.

H22engine $1200+H2B adapter$900 plus other crap runs to like $2500 or more
a GSR motor would be spend $1800
a b20vtec can cost up to 2k built right but what i dont like is that you have to buy
a stock b20 for 800 bucks and still then plus parts would be more money.

i have spent 2500 bucks on this swap and dont want spend money into building the b16 people say is a waste of time.

what can i do i really dont know much of other set ups

 

building the b16 is not a waste of time...if you boost<U></U>
I say go with a decent turbo setup that would easily push you over 250whp and a good tune and you should be happy once again.

 

at least you have a light car, i have a heavy EM1. I would put in some nice cams and tune it, with top quality I/H/E.

 

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Forced Induction

 

i would like to stick to all motor, but a b16 turbo sounds nice

 

you really have to start by getting a good I/H/E. That wont really do much, but even if you swap to a gsr or a b20v youd still need them.

 

what would be cheaper a gsr or a b20 with all the arp bolts and goodies to make it reliable.

 

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With the amount of money you spend to make your N/A 300hp a boosted car with the same amount of money will be making 600+hp.

 

building a all motor beast and building it right so it is reliable will cost a lot of money, where as a simple turbo setup can be had for about $3-3500 and can achieve over 250 to the wheels with good tuning. I say go turbo.


Modified by 626CivicSi at 12:28 PM 7/10/2005

 

Keep the B16 and build it. A little headwork and an ECU would make it quicker quickly. If you're talking about blowing $2g's, that's about what I spent on one of my favorite motors--- LS crank with stock length rods, pistons with wrist relocated a little higher are easy to find (I got some from JE) and just throw in some cams and valve springs, headwork if you can afford it. I had that thing in a gutted *** CRX and it ran high 11's on street tires.

Just my opinion

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88crxoncrack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Keep the B16 and build it. A little headwork and an ECU would make it quicker quickly. If you're talking about blowing $2g's, that's about what I spent on one of my favorite motors--- LS crank with stock length rods, pistons with wrist relocated a little higher are easy to find (I got some from JE) and just throw in some cams and valve springs, headwork if you can afford it. I had that thing in a gutted *** CRX and it ran high 11's on street tires.

Just my opinion</TD></TR></TABLE>


isn't that tech41 kit you are talking about, btw how much power did you set put out

 

O DATS 2 HARD BY A TERBOOO ITS DA BEZT!!!! U DUNT WANT ALL MOTER ITS TEH HASSLEZOR!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxh22project &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got a b16 swap done in my crx in feb, its all stock, no intake just a k&n on the throttle body stock crx dx exhaust system with a gutted cat, now im starting to loose my b16 fait. i was thinking if going with an h22 with B series tranny or maybe a gsr engine even maybe tought of building a b20vtec. i have some money to spend what can i do to the b16?? my friend who inspired me to buy a b16 used to have one that was stock and was hell of fast only thing he had was a chip with now rev limiter wich leaded to a blown engine. but that **** was fast.
my motor is good, it dont smoke but it dont seem as fast my friends.

H22engine $1200+H2B adapter$900 plus other crap runs to like $2500 or more
a GSR motor would be spend $1800
a b20vtec can cost up to 2k built right but what i dont like is that you have to buy
a stock b20 for 800 bucks and still then plus parts would be more money.

i have spent 2500 bucks on this swap and dont want spend money into building the b16 people say is a waste of time.

what can i do i really dont know much of other set ups
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your friends who said the b16 is a waste of time really deserve to be slapped and they know nothing about honda. Stay NA and show your retarted friends what ur 1.6 can do.

check out http://www.inlinefour.com. they have a lot of quality parts. i have never dealt with them personally, but they have a good reputable name.

list of mods:
MSD (if you can afford)
arp head studs (if you can afford)
cam gears (if you can afford)
*thin gasket
*CTR or something close to the equivilant
*corresponding valvetrain
*EXHAUST!!!! that dx piping is like choking your weiner then trying to pee.
*PORT JOB!!! intake mani AND cylinder head. i wouldnt spend anything less than 1 grand for this.
*hondata

 

I say sell the torqueless b16 and do your original plans. Drop in the h22. Just imagine 150+ ft/lbs in a little crx. I was thinking about doing a boosted b16 in my eg. Finally made the decision to buy another h22 and build another monster.

 

Here's what I did to my B16:





That interesting enough for you?

 

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With the engine all choked up like that, no wonder you dont like it. Like trying to drink a milkshake through a cofee stirrer.

 

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With the amount of money you spend to make your N/A 300hp a boosted car with the same amount of money will be making 600+hp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

NA 300hp? Do you know what you can do with 300 hp compared to trying to run 10s with 600whp in his street chassis CRX??

I bet that 600hp won't go too much further than an NA 230+hp setup in his CRX which is much more practical and keeping the stock crank in a Bseries. And it will cost about the same amount of money going NA.

Hey CRXH22, if your on a budget, you have 3 options:

---B16 pistons in an LS block with stock LS crank and rods
---Stock B20 bottom end
---H22

For a street car you can go very far with these setups, and it's basically OEM parts. And you'll spend less money than spending it on turboing your B16 which probably won't make you any quicker anyway.

 

turbo...............blah.

ctr pistons, cams, hondata, i/h/e should give you some decent numbers if you are on a budget.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rmcdaniels &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's what I did to my B16:





That interesting enough for you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

interested to see some dyno graphs of this-how reliable???

 

Get some head work,cams, CTR pistons, and a god header. Stay NA, and wip on the FI guys. My b16 crx only has a DC header and I pulled a 13.7 @ 98mph.

BTW why are there so many FI guys in the ALLMOTOR fourm?

 

I just dumped about 2200$ in cams,i,h,e,tuning and it wasnt where I wanted to be so I just put a 50shot on. I've beat almost all the turbo b16's at the track. Granted they were ek civic SI's and I'm in a gsr hatch.

 

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interested to see some dyno graphs of this-how reliable???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Real reliable so far, here's the thread on it:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1293497

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91’ LS-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW why are there so many FI guys in the ALLMOTOR fourm? </TD></TR></TABLE>

We're like Jehovah's Witnesses, always knocking on your door and wanting to talk about Boost.


J/K, it's all good. I've got a boosted motor in the car and a N/A motor getting built to replace it

 

boost is better

 

ls blocks are laying around everywhere. get one of those, ctr pistons, arp rod bolts, and get some buddy club 4's. Tuning, and good bolt ons should net you in the low 200 whp range. In a light enough car that could put you deep into the 12's. You already have the head and gearing. Why not finish it off with a 1.8 liter bottom end.