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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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Im planning on ordering a header withint the next couple hours and i need some help deciding. I only have 2 in mind bc i dont want to lose a/c or p/s and plus these two are supposed to be the best of the best. Ive searched and searched and i've seen the numbers but nothing from an ITR motor. Its all been b20 or b16 im just wondering if anyone on here runs an sms or rmf header on their R and what they're pros and cons are. Thanks
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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I have no clue about the RMF, but the SMS is amazing. Dave does unbeleivable work.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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RMF Narrow
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Do you run an rmf narrow?
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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I was pretty set on the sms header but dave messaged me back and said it would be at least a 6 week wait. With rmf its a 3-4 week wait and a little cheaper. Price doesnt really matter i was thinking of dtr but the dyno charts ive seen sms puts it on the dtr header. I really havent seen many dynos on the rmf narrow so im trying to get a perspective of someone with it on their R
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Im gonna wait it out tonite ill order tomorrow. For some reason this has become a bigger ordeal to me then i had planned. If you have any dyno charts for the RMF header on an itr or a b18 please give me some info. Thanks
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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ANR = RMF

my ANR with merge collector






real good ground clearance on this header

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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr1244 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ANR = RMF

my ANR with merge collector

real good ground clearance on this header

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But you loose a/c and have to buy a civic radiator from a non a/c car. Any dyno graphs before/after for this header?
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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But that's why you get the new RMF narrow instead, it fits fine with an OEM radiator and you get to keep both AC and P/S.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

But you loose a/c and have to buy a civic radiator from a non a/c car. Any dyno graphs before/after for this header?</TD></TR></TABLE>
My car never came with A/C.. so only had to buy the 1/2 size civic RaD.
sorry no dynos


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pondus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But that's why you get the new RMF narrow instead, it fits fine with an OEM radiator and you get to keep both AC and P/S.</TD></TR></TABLE>

there's ANR compact and standard.. the standard one will make more power cuz less bends.. they said it made 3 + hp on their car.. with standard header
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 05:06 AM
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Go with the RMF if you want to keep your aluminum tranny brace/flywheel cover.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr1244 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ANR = RMF</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is incorrect, all AN-R headers are made by Steve Brown of Rage Performance who was Randy Monroe's former employee. The headers Steve makes are NOWHERE close to the quality and performance of the actual RMF headers.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innovation &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That is incorrect, all AN-R headers are made by Steve Brown of Rage Performance who was Randy Monroe's former employee. The headers Steve makes are NOWHERE close to the quality and performance of the actual RMF headers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's actually right.. but mine is still made by the old fabricator.. it's like 2 years old or something and i got it off this other guy on this board.. he told me the guy who made it.. when he was working @ ANR.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itrdriver1071 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was pretty set on the sms header but dave messaged me back and said it would be at least a 6 week wait. With rmf its a 3-4 week wait and a little cheaper. Price doesnt really matter i was thinking of dtr but the dyno charts ive seen sms puts it on the dtr header. I really havent seen many dynos on the rmf narrow so im trying to get a perspective of someone with it on their R</TD></TR></TABLE>

a 6 week wait only, dang, if i had money i'd get that now, and it'd be here when my motor is finished.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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anyone have a rmf header on their itr? how is clearance issues?
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itrdriver1071 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im gonna wait it out tonite ill order tomorrow. For some reason this has become a bigger ordeal to me then i had planned. If you have any dyno charts for the RMF header on an itr or a b18 please give me some info. Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.tunerzine.com/news/....html

I say that you can't really go wrong with either header.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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Default Re: RMF or SMS? (itr1244)

are these to run open header, or do u need to weld a flange for the cat?
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by d8168055 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are these to run open header, or do u need to weld a flange for the cat?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well mine = running with full ehx..

you can do either way open header or full system
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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Well i decided to go with SMSP, only i went with a little better choice. Ordered a 1 piece stainless 4-2-1. Dave hasnt given me a date of when it should be done yet but when i get it ill post some pics up for yall.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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i'm planning on getting th RMF..can I use the stock exhaust with new cat with this?

I have a '01 ITR.

thanks
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by koji126 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

http://www.tunerzine.com/news/....html

I say that you can't really go wrong with either header.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was going to post the same article. Those numbers are all on a stock JDM ITR motor so that gives you something good to compare to. RMF seemed to have more midrange and a little bit more peak aswell.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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http://www.tunerzine.com/news/....html

Who the puck takes those photos??? they are horrible!
I should apply for that job
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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I'd get the RMF, but don't have the cash right now to get one
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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I have a brand new one forsale for b-series.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1336571
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